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Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 17 February 2008 4:33:36 AM
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Dear Antonios,
You made me curious, so I flipped open the Melway's Greater Melbourne Street Directory - to see what kind of street names Melbourne had. I began with "A." And names came up like: Athena, Athenaeum, Athens, Augustine, Aumann, then onto - Balaclava, Balaka, Balkan, Ballina, Baratta, Barcelona, Belgrave, Bella Vista, Beethoven, Bermuda, Brunswick, Bremen, then onto Cadiz, Calais, Calcutta, Caledonia, California, Cambria, Campaspe, Canada, Cannes, Caribbean, Carmen, Chavasse, Cyprus, Culzean, Cyril, Dakar, De Felice, Degas, De Havilland, Doncaster, and the list went on...every letter had a wide range of different nationalities in their name selections for streets ... I can't speak for Adelaide street names - but have you been to "Hahndorf?" which is a quaint village (population 2,000 - 28km. East Adelaide), which is reminiscent of its German ancestry. I think with the naming of streets - the Council does have certain guide-lines - which you can obtain from the local council chambers. But I assume that you'd have to show some connection to the area - as to why the Council should consider the name you're suggesting. As far as looking after the elderly. Most migrant communities have their own organisations that take care of their own. Conditions in Australia, regarding pensions, and medicare - are supposed to be among the best in the world. I know my mother has no complaints. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 17 February 2008 11:38:37 AM
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ASymeonakis,
Just wondering how many streets are named after us in ME would you know? I think the fact our children in our own country do not say the lords prayer anymore at school which goes along way to show how 'too' at times tolerant we really are. Would you mind asking the people you know in other countries if they would in return stop saying and reading the Koran in their schools please because it may effect or even offend any English kids living in their country. Look ASymeonakis, there is enough trouble in the world without you trying to stir the pot even more. On another thread we invited you to discuss any sensible ideas you had to improve living in Australia better for migrants especially in the first years. You did not email us and your aware we work with Muslims Leaders Aboriginal Leaders and god Old Fashioned Aussies oh and a few poms.Cant forget the Poms. Its a matter of record the conditions migrants lived in years ago ASymeonakis. The lived in these tiny little tin shed that were shaped like a chook pen. Funny little bull nose roofs. No AirCon No instillation and oh what happy lovely people who never complained they were. I know because my family used to visit these camps every weekend. They were so grateful for any little thing someone did for them and they NEVER expected the dole legal air special this and that. Just just wanted to work. Work they did and many of the went on to be household names in this lucky country. The Greeks and The Wogs as we called them growing their veggie markets farms and opening their own food stores and veggie stores. I remember when most of our fruit and veggies we sold to us by the wonder Aussies. And Do you know why they were Aussies right from the start ASymeonakis - Because they wanted to be! We love our Aussie migrants they are a part of this nation and we are a part of them Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 17 February 2008 3:48:11 PM
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Dear Foxy
I went many times in Adelaide City but I never see any non Anglo Saxon, street name. After your notice I checked on the Google map, I did not find. It is very easy for anyone to check it. I checked the street names from my home to my workplace (about 15 minutes by car)I found close to my workplace some names as Tikilara, Camira, Taminga, Wirringa I supposed they are Aborigines names. The truth is that I did not see all this years any street with non Anglo Saxon name but I am not a Taxi driver, may be they exist, I do not know. WHILE I DID NOT SEE ANY STREET WITH NON ANGLO SAXON NAME I SAW THOUSANDS OF MIGRANTS. Dear People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, You asked me to give you my email address I do not know who are you I do not know how to give you my email,I want to avoid to publish it, may be you know a better way. Last years the community relations have had some problems. Howard's Government was not very friendly to migrants. The war on terror, in some degree become war against migrants. The migrants you speak does not exist any more, new migrants know their rights and prefer the respect to their rights than smiles and empty words. Migrants 40-30 years before was not enough educated, was a small minority and did not know or had the power to claim their rights. Today migrant's situation changed very much. I am sure in the future migrants will prefer to claim their rights than to beg for them. They are proud persons. I do not know if you agree or not but I think the whole system must reflect and service the Australian current reality. If you have time visit http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/898586b1dc7b4043c1256a450044f331/fff3368f665eaf93c125701400444342/$FILE/G0541073.pdf , UN, Human Rights, Concluding observations of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination AUSTRALIA and read the Concerns and recommendations about migrants Antonios Symeonakis Adelaide Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 17 February 2008 6:13:58 PM
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ASymeonakis,
That is untrue and you know it ASymeonakis. We at no time ever requested your email address. That would be quite rude. I am sorry if you have misunderstood but I thought I was quite clear What we did do was post 'ours' for you to contact us-if you so wished. info@livexports.com please refer to thread and post where you claim we asked for your private email address for the benefit of others. As you made no reply to us regarding some questions re Halal and the Federal Government review of Halal Slaughter we simply took it you were disinterested in general. WE also posted the link below to fully inform you as to who we are and what we do with a genioun offer to see if we could assist you Here is the link again- http://www.halakindmeats.com/ We suggested if you wished to remain unkown you set up a hotmail address -and anyway we supplied OUR email address which is not public. Migrants many years ago didnt beg. They didnt demand either. They just worked hard and gained our repect. I am well aware of the attitude of 'some' new age people arriving. The ones who start demanding lawyers Drs houses special birthday parties arranged trips back and forth and special food. When you arelucky enough to be invited by this friendly country the Aussie people will drown you with kindness. Like I told you before the Aussies will give you the shirt off his back- but Dont make the mistake of trying to take it. I am just wondering what more you want? Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 17 February 2008 6:55:55 PM
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ASymeonakis
Ah, Yes I am fimilar with some of the concerns regarding the Government and why they closed ATSIC. As reads Below from you link> 11. The Committee is concerned about the abolition of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission (ATSIC), the main policy-making body in Aboriginal affairs consisting of elected indigenous representatives. It is concerned that the establishment of a board of appointed experts to advise the Government on indigenous peoples’ issues, as well as the transfer of most. ASymeonakis Yes I can understand that might have angered some. Funny how different things anger different people isnt it. I recall feeling rather angry myself about concerns around this issue of ATIC funding. If you really care about Aboriginal people then you would be glad these funds taken out of the hands of people who were tratiors of ther own kind. What would be your idea of the best ways in which to improve thelifes of our aboriginal people.? This is something close themy heart. I have often said we ought to be attending our own peoples needs as a number one. Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 17 February 2008 7:29:48 PM
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If you walk around these suburbs, you will find that migrants senior's needs are ignored totally. Why? If in the future you read that City Counselor Antonios Symeonakis (it is very easy to become counselor) try to rename a main road to Hra or .. Mohamed Rd, you will know that I try to turn people's interests on senior's migrants problems.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide