just having a vent all

just caught a movie mid day on tele
okay all the women were streaks of misery
so thin, starving, and sexless

perhaps its time the scientist got out
the proof of what these women are doing to themselves

advertisements with SKELETAL models..... thank goodness
I have a MUTE key

are NOT ATTRACTIVE nor sexy in any form

these ulta thin women have no sexuality and it shows,
aside from the fact that they act tired and hungry

heavens knows what the poor hormones are doing

expensive magazines are full of SKELETAL girls and women

perhaps its time the tennis players, and sports women,
like swimmers and basket ball players were chosen instead

its really bad guys....

what are women doing to themselves, and why perhaps is more
the question

regards JHH

Dear JHH,

Women have been conditioned over so many years - to accept the myths of how they should look,how they should behave, what they should wear.
And so on. And this of course affects how they see themselves.

The only way a woman can win in this situation is -to challenge the world to change and truly see her.

A woman will win by giving herself and other women permission - to eat; to be sexual, to age; to wear overalls; to cover up - or go
naked; to do whatever she chooses in following - or ignoring - her own aesthetic.

It is time women saw the radiance coming out of their faces and their
body, rather than a spotlight on the body, dimming the self.

More than a generation ago Germaine Greer wondered about women:
"What will you do?"
What women did brought about a social revolution.

However, it's time for the next phase,for us to again take control, as individual women, as women together, and as tenants of our bodies and this planet.

What we do next depends now on what we decide to see when we look in the mirror.

What will we see?

Foxy

A woman may also choose to be a good mum and wife. She should not be criticized for that choice.

Actually runner, I don't think very many people are that critical of women who decide to be mums or wives.
I think there are far more people who are critical of women who don't choose to be a mum or a wife. I'm somewhat curious as to whether you think that's okay, or whether mum and wife is the 'better' option.

Women do not need men to sit in judgement of their female figure. Women dress to please themselves not for the eyes of perving males. If I choose to be extremely thin then that is my perogative. It is extremely attractive to look slight I feel so much younger and attractive the thinner I am the more flattering praises I receive and the better I look in fashionable clothes. It does appear that it always obese persons who condemm those that have slim shapely legs. long live the skinny fashion.

JHH “what are women doing to themselves, and why perhaps is more the question”

I would suggest women are making choices for themselves, as is their right.

Foxy “Women have been conditioned over so many years - to accept the myths of how they should look,how they should behave, what they should wear.”

What you are suggesting is women are incapable of making choices for themselves and are the mere tools of fashion stylists. I know many women, none are so enslaved to such conspiracy.

“to do whatever she chooses in following - or ignoring - her own aesthetic.”

And I believe they are already and those who choose to ignore their own aesthetic get the same type of attention as a bloke with a comb-over.

“It is time women saw the radiance coming out of their faces and their body,”

My eldest daughter is 27, is “slim” and radiates. She is the happiest person I know, owns her own home, makes her own way in life and has the highest levels of self esteem.

I would recall it was our great grandmothers who corseted their “luve handles” away and whilst our mothers used girdles, which fell out of fashion for sometime, following germ greer burning her bra, if the TV ads and current affair programs are any guide, such things are making a comeback.

“However, it's time for the next phase,for us to again take control, as individual women, as women together, and as tenants of our bodies and this planet.”

Ah, the rally cry. I hope whatever you do, adopting a strident (Germ Greer) attitude will possibly turn off the very men you gals seem so intent on attracting and pushing into marriage

TRTL

I think if you don't want to be a mum or a wife then thats fine. Just don't get married and have children otherwise you will do nothing but add to the problems in society. The same goes with men. If you don't want to be a father and love your wife then don't get married and have children. Fatherless children often end up in prison.

And yes I do think that being a mum and a wife is the best option for most (not all). The problem is that this option is greatly devalued in our society these days.

Dear Col Rouge,

I actually don't like Germaine Greer very much - especially since her
inappropriate comment concerning Steve Irwin's death.
She's never been a role model of mine.

And, I too have always done things "my way." I'm a wife and mother,
worked all of my life and ran a home. Raised two boys, went back to uni. (while working full time - and raising a family), got my Master's. And I'm still going strong...

And by the way, I'm tall and thin - with killer cheekbones, and don't have an 'image' problem. I like what I see in the mirror. And so does
my husband...

In the previous post I was referring to the way some women are influenced by the media, movies, and our society in general. I should have specified of course - that obviously not all women fall into that category. There are always exceptions to each rule. But actresses and models especially are under tremenduous pressure to
stay thin and maintain a certain image and that's what this thread is all about.

It's important, for women to maintain their own identity - be
it fat or thin - as a poster pointed out - it should be their choice.
That's the point I was trying to make.

It's how they see themselves that matters - not someone else's image
of what they should look like.

JULIE VICKERS..... You just sacrificed all credibility on the alter of pc feminism.

"Women dress to please themselves not for the eyes of perving males"

HAHAHAHHHHAAAH...DE HAAHH GAG AHH COUGH CHOKE.. HAHAHAHAAH.. :)

ur kidding right ? and the 'birds and the bees' just ate each other to death.

I'll grant you one point.. they shouldn't dress for 'perving' males... agreed...and males should not 'perv'.

But NOT ALL males just 'perv' on females (while wiping off the drool).. some actually admire them as females..with a view of mutual companionship and love in mind....
and yes.. for physical satisfaction. Perhaps its the last one that is first in mind AT FIRST..... but in a well adjusted male, that quickly translates from irresponsible promiscuity into serious and responsible thoughts about a life of faithfulness together.

There is a difference between dressing "modestly but attractively" and "showing off as much as legal of all you have with a view of turning males sex drives on"

*knock knock*

Foxy.. yes.. and of course.. its THE CHURCH's fault for all this conditioning right ? :) (may as well blame it for this too eh :)
it would have nothing to do with the practical expression of the WRONG side of Galatians 5:13

"For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another."

Hmmm..something tells me.... that when people are disconnected from Christ..and use the 'freeedeom' they have to create highly charged sexual marketing campaigns for selling anything from bra's to bees wax... it sure isn't the 'Church' at fault! Nor is it God's fault.. Nor is it the loony Christian next door's fault.. no.. its YOUR fault.
(who ever 'you' might be, either the marketer or the gullable consumer)

hi all,
well interesting posts

my major concern was/is the fact that skeletal women
are becoming a predominate visual concern,
in acting, and fashion models

it seems they are ugly as to boney skeletons you can get
simply
starved from the human body level

no doubt the brain is starved too

after all, what you eat today,
walks and talks tomorrow

a skeletal body with pretend boobs, is just ugly

basically its a misconception, that extremely thin
is beautiful
bony body frames, are delicate, and at the least
uncomfortable, and baring
on the idea of being sexless

perhaps thats what women want, being sexless might
give them that independence,

I DONT THINK

a good mind, cant be housed in a vacant body
and vicki versa

its just so bad, I needless to say, dont buy any
womens magazines, and if I do come across a supposedly
high quality one
all the adverts are full of totally UGLY THIN MODELS...
with vacant hungry stares

me, oh well, I dont wear a bra, or stockings,
or high heels

designed by men to make women uncomfortable
and for profit....

grin
JHH