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A Teenage girl rejects Islam: Guess what! her mother killed by her father
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Posted by obozo, Friday, 13 October 2006 8:16:41 PM
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obozo, did you read the whole article? Further down, a local imam pointed out:
"In certain Third World countries they have honour killings, but it has nothing to do with Islam. If a girl chooses to become a Christian, that is her choice and there are no sharia killings in this country." and "If (Dr Hussain) did kill his wife then that is absolutely un-Islamic and he is regarded as a murderer in Islam." Your suggestion that the murder illustrates the advent of sharia law in Australia is not supported by facts, only by your prejudices. Posted by Pericles, Saturday, 14 October 2006 7:43:20 AM
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I wish to offer one small correction to the article in the SMH.
They stated that the law about killing an apostate comes from the Quran, but in fact it is from the Hadith. Here is the main treatment of the subject in various hadith and a discussion of the Quranic references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Hadith_reference Best to read them for a comprehensive understanding. One thing should be underlined: ALL FOUR of the major schools of Islamic Law agree that death is the punishment for apostacy. Scary stuff. Given the above point. It becomes clear that Islam as a religion and Muslims as people (if they are true to their traditions) are totally incompatable with Australian, Western and particularly Christian values. While it might seem reasonable to accept the idea that most Muslims are 'moderate' and thus basically compatable, it is also born out by experience that when the pressure is on over faith and compatability issues, moderate Muslims tend to entrench themselves and dig in to the fundamentals of their faith. It is at this point where the true incompatability emerges. The Cronulla riots demonstrate this. Polarazation of the communities saw instances where on National TV a Muslim counsellor stated that the Muslim youths: a) Felt superior to Australian b) Hated Western values. Others who were interviewed during the period, who appeared to be just ordinary people, but who were involved in the Maroubra revenge attacks, made statements like "They (aussies) have insulted Allah" The actions of this man, represent the most fundamental but faithful approach to this incompatable faith. Many people may start as 'moderates' but when community tension rises, end up as 'fundamentalists. (with the noted exception of our resident Muslim crusader F.H. :) Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 14 October 2006 8:25:21 AM
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This violence is tradgic and I feel for all concerned. The media does not say if the girl has any siblings or how they would view her.
The only thing that can be done to limit the gross violations of our culture, is to ensure that all future migrants are fully conversant with our cultural norms and the limits permitted to other cultures. A tradgic end to a family that contributed to the well being of Australia. Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 14 October 2006 10:56:25 AM
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Pericles,
You seem ignorant of Apostasy in Islam. Check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam Find more testimonials at : http://www.faithfreedom.org/testimonials.htm In islam, if anyone converts to another religion, he/she has to be killed and if any muslim girl marries a non-muslim boy, she should be killed. (ofcourse, muslim boys are free to marry non-muslim girls and convert them to islam). July 20, 2006 Special Report - UK: Killing For Muslim "Honor" Between 1993 and 2001, there have been 109 cases of so-called "honour killings" in Britain... http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002608.html Posted by obozo, Saturday, 14 October 2006 2:32:30 PM
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According to police reports, every year, 5000 women are murdered under the pretext of Honour Killing in Britain. This is just the tip of the iceberg. It is more than the innocent victims of international terrorism.
http://www.wpiraq.net/english/icahk251103.htm Posted by obozo, Saturday, 14 October 2006 2:34:51 PM
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http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20566159-2702,00.html
Sharia law in Australia?