Yes, quite so Ludwig. It seems I was wrong about young Potty, and I proffer my sincere apology. He's approached this issue in a mature and sensible way, and I'm impressed by the way he's considered people's responses and proposed a rational compromise. I'd actually extend his proposal such that, for example, drivers of large 4WDs would need additional accreditation.

So I guess it sucks for Potty, but I suppose it's ultimately a relatively minor inconvenience and annoyance in the long run. In a couple of years time it will be a moot point, and most probably the cost of fuel by then will have made owning a V8 a ridiculously profligate exercise anyway.

Yeah, So anyone here got a cheap V6 ute for sale? =P
need it to pass a roady, too

I reckon it is totally stupid to look at what engine/weight ratio your vehicle should be allowed to be driven. The only restriction which should be applied is the passenger restriction.Parental/experienced adult drivers excluded.Whether you drive a pushbike or a v12 and you hit a tree at 40klm/p/h you're dead.But how many passengers are killed and not the drivers? Driver reflexes generally makes you aim past a tree,hence passengers will be the victim.It might sound too simple but do the tally.

Mate if you look at the new laws the passenger restrictions are already in place, the problem is the 1% of stupid p platers who decide to ignore them.

They give me the irrits. They have already stuffed it for me so now i cant take my family anywhere in the car once i got P's and it also makes it worse for designated drivers, means more cars need to be used. It really is stupid, but hey, so are most things in life.

Still looking for a Ute

ANY model, under $2k with Roadworthy and/or rego
Has to be a 4 or 6 cylinder. *cries*
i live in melbourne so any one selling please post here and i will be in touch, thanks =)