Remember the threads about it? the words thousands of them we chucked at one another?
The heated insults the barbed comments? Workchoices we talked the issues out agreed and disagreed, some hurled the word choices at me like a spear, saying you had a choice!
Today it is dead!
The leader of the opposition this very day told us it is dead, he in fact said they very things I said , unions said , non union low income victims said it was wrong.
While I watch with interest for Labors true national IR true reform may I invite both sides to talk about why conservatives inflicted this wound workchoices on themselves?
And what a national system will look like?
It will [as I said against a flood of lies ] not be a gift to unions.
It will not please unions or me, but it will not be challenged by any future government.
So may those who crossed verbal swords in the debate tell us why both sides now agree with Australia's unions? workchoices was unfair.

Dear Belly,

Workchoices was a big election issue and it's great that the Labor Party kept their election promise. Great for all workers that finally fairness has been returned to the workforce.

What's impressive is the way in which the present government is going about keeping all of its promises. With Kyoto, and now tackling the issues of education and health, with the cooperation of the states. This may well end up being the best government ever.

I see a very positive future for this country under the current government.

Yes Foxy it is not yet a month from the election day, how good is that?
In fact one month ago , just days before the event few would have thought this country would have changed so very much, and for the better.
Just six weeks ago workchoices had plenty of supporters here in this forum, many of them had very little understanding of its true impacts.
Now a conservative team in tatters yet trying to start the job of rebuilding has agreed with so very many voters.
And workchoices is dead.
This time is historic, we will one day look back and see Australia took a turn that we will be proud of.
Fresh air and ideas rushes around our country's capital and I for one am proud of my country and those who stood against workchoices.
Seasons greetings to you Foxy and all who post in OLO.

Belly
Ah Um, Well The world The Stock exchange paints a very different picture after the elections.
I know of one bank who has over three hundred morgage in possecions just sitting there.

They are holding off at the request of people in high places for fear of causing panic.

Many in the business world have dropped progects and pulled out of Australia because of the work choices problem.

Many more have stopped employing.

I just fail to see how that is good for any country.

Also there is no use saying one thing and meaning another our friendship with USA has changed a bit.

Its clear USA are going down but they would have pulled out that bit extra for Howard had the Aussies ever been in trouble.

They wont do that for Rudd Belly.

So please explain why a predicted crash which will effect thousands espeically in the middle western suburbs is so good?

Do you even follow the world market?
Do you fully understand whats going on?
Do you understand companies have stopped employing people as they were?
Do you understand why they predict a huge crash and very hard times in six months but getting much much harder over the next two years.

Dear Taryn,

The previous government made a mess, and the new government has to fix it.
Why blame Rudd -they've only been in power one month. Victoria has not to this day fully recovered from the mess that Liberals have created in this state.

As for the crash that you're predicting - that's a result of world economics, but with a stable government now in power there may be more control.

As for Howard and the USA - Bush is out in 2008, and the Democrats will get on very well with the current Australian Government.

It will be interesting to get your opinion in five years time.

Dear Belly, Taryn, and All of the OLO posters,

I wanted to add, to you and yours...

Merry Christmas and All The Best in the New Year. May it be a good
one for us all!

A Big Hug ...