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Justice And a Ten Year Old Child

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Its very obvious that everybody who has provided their comments on this subject have no knowledge of what sort of person this particular judge is and what her true form is and how she has conducted herself in her own personal court, that she describes as a Tribunal, over the past ten years.
Has anybody considered that this issue has only come to light because of the troubles in the community some time after the appeal period expired when the last disturbance in Aurukun was a direct result of the perpetrators being back in the community and another riot took place after a few drinks at the local Tavern. If this riot had not occurred it would have all been very efficiently concealed and nobody would have any idea of what is really going on in our legal system in Nth Qld and especially the Cairns-Court-House.
Who blew the whistle and had this matter brought to the media's attention, could it have been the very people who have to deal with the mess when the community exploded ?
Has anybody considered that there was no room available in the local prison and that most of the people on remand or on bail know that there is a only a very slight chance of them ever going to jail because these issues are taken into consideration by all of the agencies involved behind closed doors long before the so called public legal proceedings. I have been provided with information by the employer of a couple of people who are going to be dealt with for their various serious offences and they are fully aware that its full not a bed left in the complex.
Has anybody considered that the role of a Judge is not really what the general public are expected to believe.
The penalty that all of these offences attract under the Qld Criminal Code are set out in the legislation passed by our Parliament and these are the only guidelines that the individual on the bench are legally authorised to work with, how can this happen ?
Posted by Young Dan, Saturday, 15 December 2007 1:24:32 AM
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Sorry to the anti left poster, while I am proudly from left of center I am no Comrade.
Like many things we call the extreme right the term offends me.
I however here and now back from my trip in cold blood not heat say.
The crime of the judge, prosecutor ,and stuttering foolish reply of the minister are crimes against us all.
The very real, and lunatic, nothing less! view that to take a black child is another stolen generation sin.
Or that only Aboriginal culture is good enough sickens me.
Yet I must admit without reserve some idiots from further left than I do hurt children, seemingly without concern, by repeating these words.
This child and ten thousand others are victims of or have been victims of wrong policy's by all sides of politics.
I do have faith in Rudd I do expect us to do much better.
That means prison terms for crimes like this, surely it is clear? the culture that let adults and youths do this is not acceptable and a very long way from the real culture these people once had.
It to the outside world must look like this country is racist.
That we are working to a plan to let these people destroy themselves then blame them.
Tough love, demands accountability and education from us all nothing less will do Aboriginal or legal professionals
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 15 December 2007 1:10:37 PM
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Jack the lad, I find no reason to have any respect for you.
Tapp do you think you may need help?
You say as Australia voted Labor, as you failed as I told you you would in your attempt to get elected you are right most Australians wrong?
In debate I ask posters to remember in other forums child sex is defended!
As low an act as it is some will defend it, do not forget that.
This great country of mine is racist!
We country folk know, have no doubt we do know Aboriginals who are failures.
We see things in real time real life but if this child was White? the offenders black?
Can it be true servants of my party's state government knew of far more crimes like this and hushed it up? YES!
Is the impacts of that not racist?
Now without delay we must find the guts for tough love.
Accountability
Education.
The year is 2007, far too many have no idea of Aboriginal culture, I speak of Aboriginals.
Far too many can not read or write.
Far to many never will.
For a start, forget legal rights and think in terms of humanity, pedophiles should be imprisoned for ten years first fence then desexed any further offense
Some of these offenders are pedophiles, nothing less and this country set them free!
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 15 December 2007 2:59:19 PM
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Steel I think you owe more than a few people an apology...have you read the transcripts of the court? No? Then please do and see if you still feel the same way.
Absolutely nothing can excuse the outcome in this case. I am sick to death of 'activists' in so many areas - not just this one - who stir up trouble for trouble's sake. They make life impossible for those who have done the research - often at great cost to themselves - who do not get listened to and then, when it is too late, get criticised for not speaking up or not acting. Far too much policy is made because those who should be taking the responsibility listen to the squeaky wheels who get the media attention.
This child does not speak English - in Australia where English is the official language. Why? Activists decided she needed to be educated in her own language. Part of my job involves trying to secure languages at rish but even I do not agree with that decision. Her own language does not have the concepts needed to part of the 2st century. It does not have the vocabulary. Any wonder these kids are at risk - they are not even getting a basic education - they cannot even communicate.
So Steel, read the court transcripts and see what these kids are being denied - basic human rights.
Posted by Communicat, Saturday, 15 December 2007 3:13:17 PM
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Ah Belly now let me give you the run down

the media won the election
the labor party won
the people who voted independent won as they voted for themselves and the rest voted for party dictatorship as you are well aware off.

It is a shame that politics and constitution is not taught in schools.

One would have to ask why those hypocrites that allow a party to have power who hide peodophiles
hide child sexual assualts and physical assaults is allowed.
This comes down to media and the parties not acting in the interests of the people.

If it hides like a peopdophile
acts like a peodophile
then its a peodophile.

The Australian Labor Party is no more.
If the people do not care then why are you even having a say as you are too gutless to fight against labor and their actions.

The Australian Labor Peodophile Party.

Now belly you bow to this as you know but do nothing.
you let rudd,goss,beattie get away with this as you do nothing.

so belly since your party believes it is above the law and constitution then the rules do not apply.

You the ALPP are white extremists and supporters of peodophiles and until you lot get these parasites out of politics what has happened not only to those aboriginals and white children from heiner affair, as well as what is still happening to corrupt labor governments and policy then, the commonwealth of australia will be the worlds peodophile central with your master in charge.

You people know where to find me, but to scared as i am not like everyone else, scared of the parties.

I am your worst nightmare.
Posted by tapp, Saturday, 15 December 2007 4:08:29 PM
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SCOTTY Belly and other posters.

The first thing we have to do I guess is put ourselves in the light of understanding these people live by their laws up there not under ours.
That of course is our own fault for turning a blind eye for years.

They still have their kings who rule their tribes.
They have their own culture.
The kings have domain over certain woman and children.

They have to ask permission from that King and on. They dont know any different and they have never lived by or heard of our laws- Most of them.

To ask the court to jail the son of the local mere or king or both would be litterally suicide if your were living in that envoriment.

I am sad to say this is rather common and I see no answers at all- except to do as they did years ago and remove the kids.

Of course all hell would break loose if we did that so we do nothing instead.
My girlfriend had eleven aboriginal kiddies staying with her twenty years ago.
The aboriginal people excpeted her- unusual- UNTIL she took a child the king wanted.
Then they raided the home and stormed the plane she took the child on for safe keeping.
She went to air on a cuurent affair.

She NEVER saw that particular one again.

Belly you ought to be congradulated for opening this thread - However there are no easy answers I am afriad short of the Army and talking the kids and dodging the bullets of the good doers.
Posted by TarynW, Sunday, 16 December 2007 3:15:52 AM
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