People adapt. People who never sat on chairs before can learn to drive cars and operate complex machinery; they master these skills very quickly. Similarly, Muslims don't have to take six hundred years to go through a reformation in the way they think about equality and individual rights.

First, men and even women, may look up and speak to Allah: it is possible for believers to have a dialogue with God and look closely at Him. Second, the rigid interpretation of the Quran in Islam today causes intolerable misery for women. Through globalization, more and more people who hold these ideas have traveled to Europe with the women they own and brutalize, and it is no longer possible for Europeans and other Westerners to pretend that severe violations of human rights occur only far away. Lastly it it possible to adapt one's faith, to examine it critically, and to think about the degree to which that faith is itself at the root of oppression.

In the past fifty years the Muslim world has been catapulted into modernity, but the reality of that voyage is millennial. Even today you can take a truck across the border into Somalia and find you have gone back thousands of years in time.

So, as I said previously, - we do need to take a closer look at the cultures of minorities - and ensure that despite our differences - there are shared values, prior to letting these groups into our society.
Otherwise we are asking for trouble.

We already had the right racial mix.. What the?

All that has to be done is to deport 1/3 of western Sydney back to thier refugee camps or wherever they came from with a $20000 cheque and a battalion of Infantry to make sure they get there nice and safe and bobs your uncle we will have a lasting peace in our liftime.

The rest of the ungrateful sods will have no choice but to play the game. Never forget we chose them not the other way around and as such then why cant we get rid of them for some that wil contribute and be happy.

We had CJ telling all that the Howard govt ruled by xenophobia.

Crap if he was X-phobic he would have said what I have and one the election hands down.

Child like maybe> Do I care? Not anymore.

What is this thing that if you are not white you CAME to Aus rather than being born here?

Plenty of non-whites were born here. Plenty of whites werent.

So Scotty dont tell us to get out.

Get out yourself if you want

Too many want to confuse racism with religionism.It is not the colour of their skin,but the colour of their beliefs.We should curtail Muslim immigration until such time we see how it effects social cohesion in this country.

Many say it is too late for Europe already.It is changed forever.An extreme ingorant philosophy has permeated an enlightened successful culture.They know they are on the slippery slope to chaos and cannot do a thing about it.

Savvy,

If you dont love this great country I dont give a toss where you come from. If you dont then it is simple LEAVE!

Eurabia is a certainty, UK is lost, Canada is so liberal its next.

And now Australia has a left wing government full of surposed ex-socialist turned economic conservatives. Where about to become the next large scale dumping ground for the worlds bleeding hearts pet project.

I'm betting a resurgence of National furver will brand us a little harder to conquer than other western nations but we are fighting ourselves by proxy while the enemy within gains strength.

CJ.. its taken a while, but finally I totally agree with one point you made.. (because, dare I say it.. you are expressing my own views)

"So-called 'race' should not be any kind of factor, nor should religion - unless of course the observance of that religion precludes prospective immigrants abiding by Australian laws."

Last sentence says it all. Now..surely you have not missed that regular theme coming though my own posts ? Perhaps you feel I go too far? Your 'provisional' acceptance on the religious issue is abiding by our law. Yes.. yes again.. at last!
Why did it take you so long to come out with that simple but crucial truth?

EXAMPLE. Australian law says you cannot discriminate against people in business or services based on religion. But Aussies are regularly discriminated by Muslim taxi drivers if they are:
a) Carrying alchohol (something you are partial to)
b) Guide dogs.

Now..its all very well to say that 'its just a small minority' but is it? If the whole of Sudan can be polarized by calling a Teddy bear 'mohammad'...... then.. dare I say more about the 'mindset'?

Surely it must be abundantly clear, that the more power Muslims have, the more they will exercise such discrimination? Of course the likes of FH and Irfy and all like them would not, great, unfortunately, they don't represent the wider Muslim community, they just represent their own understanding of the faith, but not great when the increasing sense of 'muslims are victims' is promoted by all manner of propoganda, mosque sermons, and literture. (not to mention possibly in Muslim schools)

The other point about withdrawal of services should tell you something. Government's care more about 'productivity_per_economic_unit' more than social harmony.

SCOTTY.. mate.. its about 'vallllllues' not skin color.