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Your Rights At Work Day One

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Now that our leadership is in place we have decided to ratify Kyoto with bi-partisan support on condition that our people will not be harmed with any reckless agreements with those under developed Countries. We will not support any changes to our Fair work Choice Laws. Western Australia have given us a mandate to protect the Industrial Relations Laws to change them would bite into the profits of our Multi Nationals who will then lay off staff or alternatively will invest Overseas. Australian Individual Workplace Agreements are popular in Moore, Pearce, Cowan, Stirling, Curtin, Kalgoolie and I cannot see any valid reason why they should be changed. If Labor want to go and challenge us to a double dissolution so be it and we will then win with our new team.
Posted by Julie Vickers, Friday, 30 November 2007 11:15:20 PM
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Dear Q & A
I appreciate your reasoning with Belly but being in the middle of the road is worthless. The class war has always been for thousands of years what Trade Unionists do not seem to understand is that if we do not make the profits then there cannot be any decent wages for them. We have to continue unregulated with a partial welfare state. You should not have voted against work choices as it treated workers quite fairly all in all. The easiest way should have been to sequestrate their funds if they defied the laws and went on strike.
Posted by Julie Vickers, Friday, 30 November 2007 11:26:21 PM
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Hi Julie, it is late but thanks for your thoughts.

You say "class war has always been for thousands of years", I say this does not make it right.

The 'class of 07' is an enlightened way of solving the problems we have - we should now wish them well.
Posted by Q&A, Saturday, 1 December 2007 12:30:28 AM
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JV do you even Begin to understand? to know you are so out of touch it is funny?
To understand your team got beaten, flogged in fact? that fear and lies hate even was rejected?
Yes some true idiots in union shirts live in the west, my enemy's as well as yours, no back down grubs and fools.
But mandate? you have a mandate? idiotic but fun!
Communicat is fun, the miss information ,the blind dislike of the reality all unions are not the same but JV!
Just a week after Australia voted you bring great joy.
Some facts Rudd is every thing we said he was, time and again I said he would not be unions Santa he will re craft IR no side will be totally happy but none hostile, his system will outlast his government, yes in the far distant future conservatives will not change it.
Just before Howard took over your party could not win a raffle if they bought every ticket JV this time it is worse!
Every state every Territory and now federally your party and its policy's have been rejected.
AND YOU HAVE A MANDATE?
Just think not unlike this brand new government conservatives must move to wards the voters the center not blunder away with the thought elections are won by blindness and stupidity.
Win next time, no sorry not one chance in a million the ALP remembers its time in the wilderness now it is your time.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 1 December 2007 5:53:46 AM
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Belly Said

Do you understand Howard's battlers have been victims of workchoices?
Present award says 20 or 25% loading on casual wages, remember some only get one day a week work, yet are not considered unemployed.
Taryn Replies
No Belly its clear your attitude towards anybody who isnt under your god dam power trip.

So YOU DO think my family should pay MORE which would CLOSE our business within months!

The way you responded to me is typical of the unuion mentality.

This whole thing with you is about class and about your ego
Pure and simple.
Thats so true of ALP in general.

The working class attack the educated. Thats basically what this is all about.
I note how much time you have to spare me and my family to discuss the many problems we have with the loss of work choices.
You couldnt have said it better.

Yeh sure belly we are the enermy.
Those dreadful people of Australia that worked a bit harder to open a business which provides jobs

The reason you have no time for business owners is you feel threatend by people with higher intellegence than yourself.

Wasnt it you who post for example-
What has Rudd and China to do with live exports?- How emabarresing.

If you dont understand the trade issues of this country belly you can not make sensible assesments of anything and you clearly dont understand business on a internatinal scale.

Nor locally it would appear.

You seem to care about business owners even less.

No wonder why all our main job providers went off shore.
" Their Coming Back'
' Their coming back'
Posted by TarynW, Saturday, 1 December 2007 6:21:52 AM
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Hang on Belly. I, quite fairly, pointed out that unions had done some good but that they were not perfect. The danger now (and it is a very real danger) is that unions will regain the power they once had and that was too much power. I know you will want to argue otherwise but unions are not the elected government. Even when they had more members than they have now they were not the elected government. Unfortunately for them and everyone else the overall union movement still wields influence in excess of its membership. The line up of ALP MPs who were formerly trade unionists is evidence of this. People who wanted to vote ALP had no choice but to vote for people who were and still are closely aligned to the ACTU - Greg Combet and crew are not going to desert their union mates if they want to keep their jobs. That's the way the system works.
For all his fine words Rudd has to work with the union movement first and the rest of us second - and he knows it.
Posted by Communicat, Saturday, 1 December 2007 7:31:34 AM
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