QxA before we shake hands do me one favor? go to your post each side of my one before this read the three.
Then if you can tell me it is me chucking a tantrum I will take another look leftist my substantial bottom!
Individual thanks heaps! your post brings me great joy! can you truly think voters who did not votes as you wished are dills?
Got conned?
Writing slowly Conservative voters turned on JOHN HOWARD.
Without that he would be Prime Minister still.
With me so far?
Did you place as little faith in voters after they delivered Lathams flogging?
And the senate?
can you understand this defeat is far worse?
Do you truly want to tell the world you think like that?
joy and happiness to you friend and again thanks for giving that to me.

I may have been hard on Q,A but not on individual, I have an understanding of opinions about unions, mostly wrong ones.
In truth ,my private view sometimes only unions can be blamed for that view, in idiotic attempts at a solidarity that never existed we often stay silent, at least in public after idiots harm our brand.
But take it from me unions are not always from the left.
And one day if we unions that is , work hard enough more will understand being in a union is just insurance for the workplace.
No more evil than car insurance or home insurance.
Indeed not unlike those we insure our cars with unions are charged with putting a case to government for better out comes in the workplace.
Rudd will not be our Santa, he may not even understand our needs as much as we want, but our aims to improve life for victims of international trade such as casual workers must continue.
More jobs are being converted from full time to part time each day, if the costs benefits always go only to the boss the flow will continue.
Why can some not see the host of paid people buying lunch's for Polly's to try to get outcomes for big business may in fact do more harm than trade unions?
Why is it ok for them , often ex Polly's but not for a union?
Your rights at work is a forever campaign, so it should be.

belly
My family like many others own a small business. We struggle to make ends meet. We employ four staff. Two of those are casual. Smetimes we are able to employ another one or two over busy times but thats the limit.
My family wrk very hard. Twelve sixteen hour days are nt unusual.
We have several morgages and other over- heads.

You not on top of everything else suggesting to make us pay casual staff holidays etc etc for God Sake Are You?

We would have to close our doors along with many other small business.

Belly a local business is about to close its doors - three people will be out of work. They were happy working there but the boss cannot afford to go on - he was earning a little above the unemployment benefit to keep his workers on and he was working 70 hour weeks to do it. They were not earning a lot but they had the flexibility they needed to care for aged parents and a kid with a disability.
What happened? The union arrived yesterday and told him things were going to change under the government. It was just a 'friendly word'. They have been waiting for weeks to do this - ever since his staff told the union they wanted no part in their shenanigans.
Ah yes, great improvements under Labor

Taryn w your post is offensive! and it is wrong! I never NOT EVER asked for holiday pay for casuals.
The casual loading is to substitute for all those lost things.
Communicat, You hurl this charge at me without the full story it may be that the boss is doing the right thing and need not fear the union.
It may also be true that like so many including yesterday he underpaid even under workchoices laws some underpaid.
Both of you need to understand that last Saturday the huge lies and fear campaign still saw the lies not have a negative impact.
Now while our hurt and suffering conservative voters find another way to insult all unions let me give all some advice.
A boss does not have to say yes to union claims, no is still an option, IF YOU ARE DOING NOTHING WRONG!
And you will find it hard to believe but it remains true, next Tuesday I meet ,by request, with 2 small business men, they are about to commence trading and asked for advice.
I will hand them health and safety policy's from other firms, drug and alcohol policy's to pick one, advice as they asked on wages.
A legal run down of insurances needed and return to work plans for injured workers.
$20.000 worth if done by costs , my charges? zero!
A chance to get members and work on their behalf nothing more.
Remember it is one of hundreds of such story's many have come to us and asked for such help.
If conservatives in such great pain can get their heads around this[ thanks for the added joy truly]
My members can not make a quid if the boss is not!
And failure by some bosses to make a quid may well not be unions fault.
Communicat you do every time you post talk in terms of evil ALP or unions my joy is endless.
Do you wish to add to our library of FREE help for good bosses or is your concern only a weapon you blindly throw?

What is the 'right thing' Belly - abide by union demands I assume? Never mind what the workers want and agree to. There are people who are willing to be paid a little less in return for flexibility, the chance to work during school hours or to leave early to take a family member to a medical appointment.
It was a tiny business Belly and one which performed a useful service in the community. It was not the sort of business to make a packet for shareholders or anyone else just a useful service with nice people. The boss was not out to make a lot of money but hoped to get a decent return for his efforts and the efforts of his employees but the union moved in and said that he had to meet union standards - not his employees' standards (and they could have gone elsewhere but they liked the guy and his conditions).
Like it or not Belly unions do have things to answer for. They did good in the past and they could do good again but they will not do good when they muscle in and make unreasonable demands because that is what they and not those doing the job want.
Time to acknowledge that unions are not perfect Belly?