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Indonesian economic refugees - a litmus test for the left?

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Boazy: "What interests me though, is whether the Left will pick up on this and try to politicize it."

It seems to me that the only one around here trying to do that is you, Boazy.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 23 November 2007 11:30:44 AM
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I got as far as "baseball" "gardens" and went to page 5.

It may have been mentioned some where here, that our sea boarders changed relatively recently, certainly in my lifetime.
Certainly the forbears of these "criminals" fished what is now Australian territory for hundreds maybe thousands of years?
Provided it was policed why not let them fish in "Australian waters"
Lets hope we get more info on the intrusion before casting stones.
fluff
Posted by fluff4, Friday, 23 November 2007 12:14:31 PM
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Boaz,
The big difference I see between these asylum seekers and the ones from the Middle East is that these are entitled to ask for asylum because they came direct and did not pass through other countries.

So, on that basis, Indonesians, Timourese, New Gueanians, Pacific Islanders, Kiwis and some Africians can claim asylum if they come direct. Not sure about Tasmanians though, questionable?

No doubt this latest lot will get legal advice, at our expense, and be given the opportunity to change their claim from 'economic' to 'political'. We are known to be a soft touch.

I noted Kerry Nettle's attempt to disparage our defence services again but the commercial ship, there also, contradicted that.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 23 November 2007 1:03:34 PM
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Boaz David tries to get his point over with emphasis on forecasted violence ,ie, the "baseball bat".
Reminds me of a political party .
Posted by kartiya jim, Friday, 23 November 2007 9:28:00 PM
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Banjo... Taswegians must be kept out at all costs mate :)

err.. do you have a link to the Kerry Nettle article ?

Freediver. "Question about the ownwership of the resource" ?

Thats like is saying that we in fact own the USA because we want to benefit from its bounty.

It doesn't matter if people 'used' to fish a certain area.. the law is the law...and international boundaries must be respected.

Its interesting to see what is happening in Singapore..they keep 'reclaiming' the ocean.. but each time they do, it impacts the international boundary between Sg and Indonesia.

Seems to me we need both 'Resource' protection and then Border protection to cope with the result of the former.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 24 November 2007 10:46:04 PM
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Kerri Nettle speech. found it.

and the dark...ugly truth about the Greens suddenly comes to light.

BEGIN QUOTE:
"There are still 87 people who have been in immigration detention longer than 2 years. One woman has now been detained for 6-and-a-half years.

"Just this week I received a petition from over 10,000 Australians calling for the abandonment of the massive new detention centre on Christmas Island.

"Climate change will create 250 million displaced people between now and 2050. The government is doing nothing to prepare for this.

"Next week I will introduce a Private Members Bill to formally recognise and create mechanisms to deal with climate refugees.
END QUOTE:

COMMENT:
Notice how the thinking went from "some people detained for a long time"

to

250million climate refugees....and OUR government is expected to "prepare" for this.
Run that figure around in your heads 4 a while.. 250 MILLION....

That last bit is a deuzy "Private Members bill..CLIMATE refugees"

I don't have a problem accepting Pacific Islanders. But 250 MILLION.... how many millions would Kerri suggest we take in ?
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 24 November 2007 10:51:48 PM
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