Johnny Rotten

Nothing could be further from what you say. Christians realise that we all have the nature of Adam. Millions of atrocities have been done in the name of Christ. What you mis represent is Christ's teachings. The church has always been made up of sheep and goats or wheat and weeds. One day we believe Christ will sort out the genuine from the fake. The word fundamentalist has been distorted to mean bad or terroist where in fact anyone who believes in the death, burial and literal resurrection are fundamentalist. They believe in the fundamentals of the Scriptural teachings. The point I make is that a person like you is smart enough to know this and yet you and others delibaretly and dishonestly ignore this fact. You also ignore the most violent in this nation ( the protesters at various gathering) who are more often than not masquerading as Greenies, environmentalist or socialist.

runner: "...the most violent in this nation ( the protesters at various gathering) who are more often than not masquerading as Greenies, environmentalist or socialist"

Finally poor old runner gets something right!

RUNNER....I'm a bit curious about what you mean't the mate ?

"Masquerading as"

Notice how CJ jumped on that like a pitbull on a chihwawa and agreed with you...... Thats ALWAYS a sign of 'danger' :)

I think they are a mixture of "real" Greenies and "real" socialists, but there is also an anarchist element who become human limpit mines and attach themselves to some of these things just seeking to cause strife.

I saw enough anger to fill half of hell when I attended the G20 protest.. mostly from leftoids.

Runner.. ru in Melbourne ? There will be a most interesting trial going ahead in February..I'm taking a few people to it for public interest reasons. Why not come along ?

mjpb: "your belief system doesn’t allow free thinking"

How do you figure that? While I prefer to have strong, verifiable evidence before I believe things, I don't think I'm narrow minded at all. It's people like you who raise myths and legends to the status of reality - which is fine, but I object when your hocus pocus becomes incorporated in a government that has authority over me, or when my tax dollars go to support religious schools to the detriment of state schools.

"That is dangerous although your only current victims are Christians"

Did you actually read what I wrote? I have no problems with most Christians (or Muslims or whatever) - it's only when their beliefs and practices intrude, or potentially intrude, on my life that I object to them. If anything, I think that Islam is less palatable than Christianity, but it's Christians who have the power, money and political clout in this country.

Moreover, in this forum objectionable Christians outnumber objectionable Muslims by about a factor of 10.

"If you don’t believe me would you like me to play psychic and predict your answers to a range of questions?"

No thanks. In my experience, those who have imaginary friends with whom they like to converse tend to be children, or to be 'psycho' rather than 'psychic'. In either case, I have no interest in playing games with you.

JR,

Are you saying that you think that Runner has attacked you personally? I missed it – which post? Do you think that disrespect characterizes posts of Christians in this forum while respect characterizes the non-Christian posts?

”Problem is we don’t always like to admit that we do – bad things that it. Which brings me back to hypocrisy; I believe we should own what we do either as individuals or as a group.

Seems to me that not a single Christian poster here is willing to acknowledge that both now and in the past that Christians have done very bad things indeed.”

I am glad you were sincere. That is to your credit. You weren’t deliberately misinterpreting Runner. Hopefully my assumption about what Runner meant (see previous post) is correct and this will now be a non-issue. Hopefully it will also undermine your general stereotype if he confirms that he knows some Christians do bad things.

”Why aren’t Christians working towards peace, why do they try to blame others rather than cleaning up their own behaviour first?”

Have you considered that perhaps Christians are continually being stoned and being imperfect humans lose sight of working for peace in that environment? This is also a strong temptation for Christians to be less friendly and regardless of ideals Christians are human. Considering that these forums seem to be a haven for extreme Christians (and extreme atheists) can you see anything about the first post that might appear insulting to the local Christians? What I mean is: try walking in the moccasins before being so critical.

Bugsy not ignoring you. I am just riding the post limit and prioritising.

Boaz

I wrote 'the most violent in this nation ( the protesters at various gathering) who are more often than not masquerading as Greenies, environmentalist or socialist.' I meant by this that a number of socialist will use the mask of being environmentalist as an excuse to display violence. Many of the global warming bandwagon are now good examples of this. They justify their violence by pretending to care for the earth while hating all authority. They then have the hide to project law abiding bible believing Christians as evil because the Christians disagree with their narrow minded world view.

And I am from WA not Victoria so am unlikely to make any meetings in Victoria