Poor old Steven's obviously lost it - he's acquired Boazy's intellectual disability to the extent that his textual symptoms are almost indistinguishable. If he'd thrown in a few biblical quotations who could tell the difference?

As a wandering Jew who's had to leave the comforts of Apartheid-era South Africa, only to find that his latest adopted country welcomes all kinds of 'coloured' people, some of whom include his hated Muslims, it's hardly surprising that he'd pop up on a thread such as this.

I don't hijack discussions about Islam and Muslims - however, I often point out obvious xenophobia and bigotry when they raise their ugly heads, as is all too common in this forum. Ditto with racism.

Funny how most of the xenophobes and bigots in this forum are affiliated with religions that just happen to compete directly with Islam, though.

As usual the irreligious nutters show the most intolerance. They are usually tolerant of evil and very intolerant of anything good!

and......CJ Morgan heads the list of reasons why my last post was so accurate.

GBs
-Irrelevant drivel.
-Delusions.
-religious nutters
-hijack every discussion
-mythology or bigotry
-dissemination of hatred.

Well...blow me down... I tawt I saw a puddytat GB hater there in CJ......based on his words.. which are much stronger than those of his despised 'whack-a-mozzie' brigade...and have nothing to do with any argument put forward by we 'GBs' yet he has the gaul and hypocrisy to declare himself as one who holds 'informed opinions' :)

CJ.. you really are totally blind...arn't u ? :).. u just don't see how far gone you really are... next you will be lining we GB's up for the Gulag.. perhaps that pet tiger you are training in that little room with effigys will come in handy soon ? (yep... in this case I am attacking 'you' and quite justified too)

I can actually see how my comments at times would be offensive,... but you ? good grief mate.. you are so wrapped up in your blanky of self righteousness.. up there on Cloud "no contradiction" that you are completely oblvious of your own condition.

You see.. here is the difference. A Christian gives informed opinion... and is condemned for it. Another (you) spews out froth and unending bile which dribbles onto other posters rather than their argument... do you see it ? (where is Pericles' FINGER when I need it?)

If a Muslim or a Hindu or a Socialist or a Green can offer dogmatic opinions.. why not Christians ?

BOAZ_David,

My hat! Here's a first. I find myself more in favour of than against one of your posts.

You posted seven propositions and I found myself agreeing with 4 out of the 7.

Scary.

Yes, I find the godbotherers a big distraction to serious discussion. Their whole belief system is premised on blind faith and there is no way you can conduct a rational discourse with anyone like that.

The sheer hatred and hypocrisy of comments made by BD and others at times is really quite amazing. How they can reconcile that bile with anything that a man called Jesus might have once said is beyond me. And to think they honestly believe that that sort of hatred helps them shore up a place in so-called heaven.

And BD and crew if you think I'm going to get into a debate over anything I've said here you're wrong. I wouldn't waste my time.

As the original poster, I must say I'm totally pumped by how this is going. Despie rumours to the contrary, I love free speech and robust opinions, and I thought my contribution amply demonstrated that.

To address your ideas about the assumptions in my OP Boaz:
1/ It is suggestive that 'godbotherers' are less valid human beings.
No it isn't. Where on earth d'ja get that from?
2/ It implies they have nothing useful to contribute.
Hmm. It doesn't, but it does imply that on this board they often contribute on topics other than that suggested by the original poster.
3/ It suggests that 'non' God-botherers are by default 'correct'.
Huh?
4/ It suggests non Godbotherers are normal and GB's are subnormal.
Okay. This is getting ridiculous.
5/ Its arrogant.
Finally, a bulls eye. It is arrogant.
6/ Its rude.
Again, true. But free speech often is.
7/ Its bigoted. "It doesn't matter what you say.. its stupid"
Wrong. It matters very much what you say. What you say is *everything*. I'm not bigotted against religious types - some of my best friends and all that – but I prefer the reasoned, intelligent vareity. Honestly, I rarely see that on this board, which seems to be a magnet for nutters. That was my observation, as a newbie here, made after I saw one thread too many lost to irrelevancies.

No doubt you will tell me to bugger off if I don't like them apples, and perhaps I will, but just thought it was worth pointing out why I'd be buggering off.