Or d'you reckon we're stuck with them?

a certain percentage of ozzies are wrapped in the comforting arms of religion. they may be boring, and illogical, but they work, raise kids and contribute to the human story- let em have their say, and maybe they'll let you speak too.

i skim bd, and skip gibo entirely, as that's my estimation of how interesting they will be. easy to do, and i keep in mind any number of people have said my contributions have negative value, so why should i, or you, canvass an alternate reality where only smart people like us pat one another on the back?

Botheration,

This is only a guess but the short answer seems to be "yes."

However, mostly it's only one God botherer and he's easily ignored.

Yikes.. Stephen... is that me ?

Actually... why does the mention of our Creator or Christ.. have to automatically mean a thread is 'sidetracked' ? Is it not possible to look at what one says.. or to ignore it altogether and just get on with the subject ?

DEMOS... I'll take that as a challenge "skim" :) and see if I can reach 'rivetted attention' for my posts with you.

I totally fail to see how you can get 'illogical' from what I say, I'd love to see an example and then see just how illogical it is.

I see most things in very simple terms. But not simplistic.

If we are talking about politics.. I see 'people'....and in them I see the fallen human race. Until I see evidence to the contrary that will continue to be my position.

I absolutely assert that the ills we are all discussing are a result of alienation from God... and people can disagree about that, no drama..but it sure is my view.

The ironic thing about this topic.. is that it only exists to fuel the very thing it criticizes :)

On a more serious note..... re the topic.

There are some assumptions in the very title which concern me.

1/ It is suggestive that 'godbotherers' are less valid human beings.
2/ It implies they have nothing useful to contribute.
3/ It suggests that 'non' God-botherers are by default 'correct'.
4/ It suggests non Godbotherers are normal and GB's are subnormal.
5/ Its arrogant.
6/ Its rude.
7/ Its bigoted. "It doesn't matter what you say.. its stupid"

If you want a GB to criticize...by all means look closely at the posts (one in particular) of Webby our new catholic friend... who stated re the Catholic Church "It is the ONE TRUE church" (his emphasis)

Let me leave you all with the words of Jesus on that matter.

Matt 18:20 "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst."

The only pre-requisite for them gathering in His name is that they know Him, believe in Him and have repented. "Brand"...does not matter.

Botheration, as Boazy has so kindly demonstrated, the answer is probably "yes", unless the rest of us managed somehow to ignore them totally by not responding to their irrelevant drivel. It's an unfortunate aspect of free speech that the idiots have as much right to express their delusions as the rest of us have to express our informed opinions.

I agree that it does get annoying and tiresome when the religious nutters try and hijack virtually every discussion in order to promote their particular brands of mythology or bigotry - particularly when this involves the dissemination of hatred, as with the whack-a-Mozzie brigade. However, I can't see how we could stop them without being as guilty of intolerance as they are.

My response to them is usually either to lampoon them mercilessly, or to ignore them altogether. On reflection, the latter strategy is probably better in terms of staying on topic, but the former is quite fun sometimes.