C J Morgan:I consider Ms Scrymgour to be true to traditional Labor values.......That just about says it all. It explains why such terrible conditions in aboriginal communities have been allowed to fester.
And how the same Labor individuals are hating to see Howard deal with it albeit years too late.You can hardly play the victim when you are the cause of such misery.

Hang on Jim you do not think the destruction of homes is a lie do you?
And the poster above mine rubbish!
I am from the ALP no easy task to put the party first but if more would we would not need threads like this.
I challenge the Lady's balance and understanding of her peoples problem.
I do honestly think we Australians act like racists.
We know and understand some Aboriginals live in dreadful conditions, far too many far too dreadfully.
We say it is their fault far too often.
And we refuse to understand we look to the outside world far to unconcerned at our neglect.
Yes add me to the list of those who are against handouts.
But put me on the growing list of people who understand lack of education is a big part of the problem.
And the drug of sit down money without accountability is doing what all drugs do killing the need for change.
J C Morgan is a poster I will continue to respect, but we will differ often.
My ALP must evolve.
It is doing just that.
Elections are not won by other than mainstream party's, the river bed has moved much from the lights on the hill days.
It is wrong to think the party did not have to.
Rudd will craft policy's that put light and new breath into this problem.
Do not however confer sainthood on all Aboriginals, some of them are as racist as any man on earth, some have committed crimes against their own children.
Pre white man Australia had laws much harsher than ours laws that did not see remission such laws may need to return.
John Howard is no Friend of mine but he acted Kevin Rudd Sir please end this country's shame.

Here is another link to Marion's speech: Intervention is a weapon we know of old (The Age 26 October 2007) http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/intervention-is-a-weapon-we-know-of-old/2007/10/25/1192941242977.html
The download is also easier to read. I lived and worked in Maningrida for 4 years where she was our local member. My own feedback from the community, which is the second largest in the NT, is that the intervention has not really addressed the child abuse and health issues and that Mal Brough is more interested in his wider indigenous political agenda. Please read the speech!

I firmly stand by my every word, the lady has no fan in me.
Most of her speech was about the stolen generation , and true about a sometimes evil always tragic event.
Like the ALP I think it is past time.
Past time to ask why the violence against women and kids?
Why the neglect of state and federal governments?
What is so wrong with accountability FOR BOTH SIDES?
Why have we not fixed it generations ago?
And I demand my party in government fix it, remove the problem people of any color who feast on the issue , not fix it.
Keep the bleeding hearted liberals at bay ,they are the problem not the solution.

I revisit the thread and hope others do, it is clear evidence of why some from the Aboriginal community are No help at all to that community.
The lady has stated her regret at her speech, so she should! it again highlighted history, long ago history , in a one sided way.
I was targeted by a poster I regard as a good one, but both sides including my party agreed with me.
Let me make it clear, I am no greens supporter, NEVER!
I truly think we must stop bleeding hearted liberals and some within the Aboriginal community hurting the present and future of these people.
It is my view this lady should not be in Parliament house with a mop and bucket in her hands.
Hidden from some but not all of us is an industry based on really doing nothing about the tragic lifestyle some Aboriginals have.
Stolen generation, saying sorry, blaming whites, no accountability, and switching the debate from raped children,,bashed females drunken rage ,are symptoms.
Can I ask who will say sorry to my ancestors? dragged to this country in chains? who from nothing built this great country and the social welfare system that is all that stands between some and starvation?

Belly ,
Steady Up,the lady is where the action is.
Surely she is more believable than John howard and his government of "two facers".

She wants children protected too and the scourge of alcohol and violence gone.

Why did the troops on the ground ,the NT Police Association, say they wanted the Permit System to stay and then were completely ignored and dismissed by Brough and Howard.

That, to use a modern expression, simply "sucks"!

Hey,like yours, it seems our mob stole a loaf of bread to get here.That was a stroke of luck!

Our crew then set about quickly acquiring Aboriginal Land for free and have done very well thanks .

Am I asking for an apology for being dragged out to Australia? NO .

But let us get it straight - Australia wasn't built from your "nothing" - it was ,is, built on what the [Aboriginal] land and water could produce and the rocks and soil that are in it.

I was part of an economic system in the cattle industry where Aboriginal People worked for slave wages in the North of Australia and were then kicked off their traditional land when we ,the powerfull invaders, very reluctantly ,finally had to pay them a bit more than a pittance for their labour and the use of their productive land and water .

That sucked too!