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NT Invasion: Why Marion Scrymgour has spoken out

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CJMorgan asserts that the appalling situation detailed in the 'Little Children Are Sacred" report is all the fault of state and federal Liberal govts.

What utter rubbish Morgan. How can you be so biased as to make such a ludicrous and just plain wrong statement. Government agencies knew and did nothing about child abuse in the NT, in NSW, IN Qld etc in the last few years, and these were Labor govts.

Those I know on the ground in the NT who work in this field are to a man and woman staunchly of the left, and always considered themselves to be delivering small l liberal, leftist programmes.

At least cj you seem to now accept that child abuse in the NT aboriginal communities is real. Recently you were still claiming it was only "alleged".

And Mao and Stalin were maligned by the running dogs of the lackey press of the ruling hegemony, right CJ?
Posted by palimpsest, Thursday, 25 October 2007 7:44:25 PM
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The full text of Marion's speech "Whose national emergency? Caboolture and Kirribili? or Milikapati and Mutijulu?" is available at: 'Labor minister lashes party over intervention' (SMH 24 October 2007) http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/labor-minister-lashes-party-over-intervention/2007/10/23/1192941065085.html.

PDF files of the full speech can be downloaded from this article.
A close reading might answer many of the concerns expressed so far. It will certainly raise many more about the current direction.
Posted by top ender, Thursday, 25 October 2007 8:24:05 PM
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I disagree with Marion. I have never voted for the Coalition eithe at a State of Federal level and don't intend to however Marion appears to me to be using her Aboriginality to criticise legitimate moral and social reforms.
This is a chance for the ALP to be bi-partisan because the physical assults upon babies, children and young and old adults alike is appalling. The rapes and murders too are a grave evil.
That is why I do not appreciate the media and Marion carrying on like this.
They are behaving in a disgraceful manner.
When anyone white or black committs atrocities, then the authorities have to intervene for the sake of the innocent and the powerless.
Posted by Webby, Thursday, 25 October 2007 9:43:46 PM
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When human beings, adults, and especially children, are abused they should receive protection from authorities. White Australians can't profess ignorance of these crimes any longer. The crimes cannot be met with indifference and silence. And, the excuse that "We are civilised, they are not, so leave them alone..." will no longer wash.
Action is the right course.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 25 October 2007 10:16:24 PM
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Right wing jc Morgan? yes Labor right, the only part of the ALP able to lead the party to government.
How can you divert the subject to invasion and murder?
It is about the criminal actions of Aboriginals against Aboriginals, isn't it?
How can doing nothing be the answer?
I am ashamed my Socially progressive party is being used by such as this lady to smoke screen an issue that shames us all.
That issue is not Howard's intervention but the need for it.
Not taking it out of the NT hands but the NT not fixing it.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 26 October 2007 7:07:20 AM
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Some apathetic OLO posters are very happy to let Governments and thus themselves , off the hook for their lack of responsibility in Aboriginal Affairs.

We demand and get any number of services for the disadvantaged ,drug and alcohol addicted , sick and aged in our Canberra and Sydney .

When it comes to the bush generally and Aboriginal Communities in particular, it's "we appreciate you giving us the use of your resources - but you will have to look after your own disadvantaged and make the most of your lot".

Aboriginal people had lived here in Australia successfully for 40,000 + years, they were and still can be adaptable - but that was until we arrived and did our best, through actions and then INACTIONS to ruin their societies .

The First Fleeters remarked on how healthy they were.

We took away their tools and are still doing it with the NT Intervention Legislationthat prevents any application of Traditional Law. Have a look at the Senate report .

We are inherently responsible for their majority of their ills and it's garbage to say we don't have the responsibility to help fix things up and get them back on their feet ,no matter how long or how much it takes .

As a leading architect working with and repairing Aboriginal housing in the NT said on Fran Kelly's Radio National today," a two bedroom poorly constructed house containing three families and 14 or so people - hot water services not even connected ".

It's a recipe for disaster and the disaster is upon us .

It's not good enough .

Ps . And to those that will howl "the blacks broke up the house for firewood " which is a conveniently oft perpetrated Myth ,the architect said that only 10% of his work was repairs .

Most of it was simply getting services such as water and sanitation services connected - if they were there.
Posted by kartiya jim, Friday, 26 October 2007 8:18:08 AM
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