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The politics of tariffs

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"Do you want China to increase wages so OUR cost of living goes up a bit more? YES or NO
Tell me what do you really want?"

I want China to stop using slavery as a means to enforce their rule over captive nations. Or more precisely, recognising that totalitarians will always seek to enforced their rule over captive nations, I want freedom-loving nations to stop enabling that slavery by buying its product.

What China pays its people is utterly immaterial.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 8 June 2026 9:28:13 AM
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Hi Trumpster,

No one condones slavery, physical or economic, slavery in its broader sense does include exploitation of labour. The forced labour practised by the CCP against the 12 million Uyghurs is reprehensible. Although the Chinese government denies it, there is evidence that labour exploitation is taking place in China. I don't think Trumps gives a crap about labour exploitation, he's happy to support American multinationals exploiting cheap labour in third world countries, just as American agriculture and industry exploits cheap illegal Mexican and other labour within the United States itself.

" American multinational companies routinely take advantage of significantly lower minimum wages and weaker labour regulations in countries like Bangladesh, Vietnam, Mexico and others to reduce production costs, with the aim of maximising profits."
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 8 June 2026 10:14:15 AM
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Australia might not be able to dodge this tariff, and the statement that the tariff also targets countries “that have the toughest anti- slavery laws in the world” might just support my contention that the yammer about who indulges in slavery and who doesn't is irrelevant. Well, some of them, perhaps.

A U.S official bluntly said, “It's another avenue to steer away countries from Chinese goods”.

https://michaelwest.com.au/no-way-for-australia-to-talk-way-out-of-fresh-tariffs/
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 8 June 2026 11:10:35 AM
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Israel is the number 1 hated and despised people on the planet.
America is number 2.
http://x.com/Fx1Jonny/status/2063353948929470528

America already has to repay US $160 bln for tariffs it charged that were overturned in the supreme court.
So really all he did so far was put prices up for U.S. consumers and didn't earn a dime.
He can place all the tariffs he wants, I'll just be even less inclined to buy goods made from America.

They want to pressure me to buy U.S. products?
Well, even if Chinese goods even get more expensive one day, I'll still buy them rather than give America anything.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 8 June 2026 11:57:47 AM
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Hi AC,

China isn't Utopia.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=frm3TwjuFuw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BtVozQG2Q-4
Posted by Fester, Monday, 8 June 2026 12:35:17 PM
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We have people here utterly misunderstanding the nature of the slavery imposed on the Uighurs by the CCP. We have some who think its just a union problem, or the Uighurs are just like low paid Mexicans, or just like of the US prison population. Name one slavery and the other slavery and they magically became identical. Observe that a wombat and an elephant both have four legs, declare them to be the same.

Here's a brief summary of the Uighur situation....

"...the Chinese government has conducts a systematic campaign of mass detention, cultural erasure, and forced labor against Uyghurs and other minorities in the Xinjiang Region. Over one million people have been held in internment camps—often called "re-education" centers—where they face political indoctrination, torture, and coercion into labor: overcrowded cells, beatings, electric shocks, sleep deprivation, and forced renunciation of faith. Factories have been built inside or adjacent to these camp producing textiles, apparel, electronics components, , under constant surveillance. Refusal to work brings punishment.

The XPCC, a paramilitary organization, plays a central role in running prisons, farms, and factories exploiting this labor.

Beyond the camps, programs forcibly relocate hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs to factories across China. Families are separated, movement restricted, and workers subjected to Mandarin lessons, ideological training, and abusive conditions. Reports document quotas enforced through threats, physical violence, and separation from children, who are often placed in state-run facilities.

These practices amount to state-imposed forced labor and, according to UN experts, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and others, may constitute crimes against humanity—including enslavement, persecution, and inhumane acts. They aim to assimilate Uyghurs by breaking cultural, religious, and familial ties. Leaked documents, satellite imagery, survivor testimonies, and supply chain analyses support the scale of this system.

The human cost is immense: destroyed lives, erased identities, and generational trauma. Global efforts like import bans seek to disrupt these supply chains. The Uyghur crisis stands as one of the gravest human rights abuses of our time, demanding continued scrutiny and action."

Trying to stop all this is a moral imperative. Trying to minimise it, is the opposite.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 8 June 2026 12:55:55 PM
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