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Israelis and Palestinians. Will they ever get on again?
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Posted by NathanJ, Sunday, 24 May 2026 1:17:08 AM
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After 40 generations of this idiocy, there can not be any believe left to think there'll be a chance of peace !
I'm ignorant about the real goings on but from what I see on display on a daily basis I can understand how Israel is trying to put a stop to it. Palestinians appear to be adverse to peace even outside the Middle East. The real problem is that their antics actually attract supporters among the soul-less Woke in the West ! Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 25 May 2026 9:50:06 AM
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Of course they will never "get on again" because they have never 'got on' before. This question demonstrates complete ignorance of what Islam is all about.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 25 May 2026 10:14:08 AM
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Israel manufactures terrorists, when it denies due process.
Israel manufactures anti-semites when it denies the truth. Israels Wars and U.S. occupations result in terrorist attacks in Western countries. Laura Tingle is milquetoast, but she can spot the problem. Israel misses the point and consequences of its actions in wake of flotilla outcry http://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-23/israel-global-sumud-flotilla-gaza-israeli-detention-ben-gvir/106692316 "A storm of protest erupted over the New York Times piece, challenging the allegations it published. But as many pointed out the time, the protests held outside the newspaper's offices in New York were targeted at the fact the newspaper had run the story, not the disturbing underlying allegations." * ATTACK the person who exposes it and hurts the greater cause instead. (There's a pattern here) Israel... They don't care about what they do, they will turn a blind eye to or justify anything they do, but if someone or something shows them in a bad light, even if one of their own does collective harm to their cause they attack that person. If you look closely you'll see it demonstrated repeatedly. Take the example of the Israeli prosecutor who exposed the rape of Palestinian prisoners, Israel doesn't address the underlying problem, being the rape of Palestinian prisoners. There's government officials come out on Channel 14 and openly defend that. But they will attack to the point of suicide someone who hurts the cause. It's why they labelled Defense for Children International Palestine a terrorist organisation because they blew the whistle on the rape of Palestinians kids as well. Forgive the rapists http://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-13/israel-idf-drops-sde-temain-reservist-palestinian-abuse-case/106449540 Attack the one who spoke out http://www.facebook.com/reel/1755661681818332 This basically results in these people largely not being able to look critically at their own actions and ALWAYS ATTACK the person who exposes it and hurts the greater cause instead. - Once you see the pattern, you can't unsee it. They are taught to see Palestinians as non-human, centuries of peer reinforced dehumanisation. Amalek! - But in the end, they really only harm themselves. WATCH http://x.com/RamAbdu/status/2058324890491429234 You can call me whatever you want, it doesn't mean I'm wrong. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 26 May 2026 5:43:57 AM
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The claim by ttbn that Jew and Arab "have never 'got on' before" is untrue. Some people have a distorted opinion based on today's conflicts. The two groups have shared peaceful coexistence, cultural exchange, and political alliances for centuries beforehand.
"For over a thousand years, the vast majority of the Jewish population lived in the Middle East and North Africa under Muslim rule. By Islamic law, Jews were classified as dhimmis—protected peoples who were required to pay a special tax but were generally granted religious freedom, community autonomy, and economic security. During this time, the term "Arab Jews" described a population that was as culturally Arab as it was Jewish". The great distortion between Jew and Arab developed more in the twentieth century than any time earlier, as Western powers sought control of the Middle East, creating conflict between the two groups. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 26 May 2026 6:43:59 AM
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Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”
Golda Meir, Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 26 May 2026 4:06:39 PM
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mHaze,
Looks like they're hell-bent on proving Golda girl right for a long time yet ! Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 27 May 2026 8:10:18 AM
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"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their dead children more than they hate us for killing them.”
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 27 May 2026 9:38:02 AM
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Just curios & perhaps someone can tell us the answer to this question. How was society in Melbourne & Sydney before Palestinians & their supporters moved in ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 28 May 2026 5:39:14 AM
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Hi Indy,
You ask; "How was society in Melbourne & Sydney before Palestinians & their supporters moved in ?" I recall in Sydney, I assume Melbourne was much the same, there was animosity towards migrants, who were mostly Southern European and British, with disparaging language used. There was a general belief then that; "the wogs have got all the houses" and "bloody ten pound Poms" insulting name calling was common; "dago, spick, wog, etc" When Asian migrants started to arrive they were called; "slope heads, chinks etc". A common belief was that migrants got preferential treatment for work, housing etc. The British were believed to be dirty, and didn't wash themselves, came from the notion that in Britain they kept the heating coal in the bathtub, and didn't use the tub to wash themselves. You say you are a migrant yourself, did you experience any prejudices when you first arrived? There was a lot of it in schools and work places, that I know of. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 28 May 2026 7:00:38 AM
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So that's why they call it a pommy shower Paul.
- Quick squirt of the BO spray and you're done. "dago, spick, wog, etc" "slope heads, chinks etc" - Yes all of those, and more. It was hazing in its kindest form. And outright racist in it's worst. I think it was tribal, and with it was a greater sense of national unity. (But also we only had a handful of tv channels so the whole country watched the same thing) We had our own unique culture separate from the rest of the world - But obviously there were winners and there were losers in that equation. But it was probably like that with every country and culture back then. Back before UN global agendas made all western countries generic and banned all of our unique (and a little racist) cultures. How were the Palestinians doing before the Israelis decided to immigrate back there and re-establish modern Israel? We had a hand in taking that land from the Turks, we shed blood for it, and we turn a blind eye to the bs that Israels been doing there for over a century. It's clear what the plan was when Israel was established. - Get rid of the Palestinians. http://x.com/xIsraelExposedx/status/2059224766192533789 What do you think the Clean Break policy + 911 and the subsequent War on Terror, culminating in the War with Iran is really about? One may support Israel, and for them maybe this is all an outcome to be celebrated. But if you don't, then all this bs is, is endless wars, destruction, killing and subversion of our own national interests for a foreign nation, that leads economic crises, and traitor politicians, conflict, infighting, increased immigration from Muslim countries attacked by Israel and the U.S. resulting in Wesern terrorist attacks, a MSM that shovels lies and bs down our throats while saying 'The other guys are doing it!' and a democracy that's a compromised steaming turd that fosters and rewards incompetent morons. Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 28 May 2026 7:47:32 AM
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Israelis and Palestinians. Will they ever get on again?
What exactly is meant by "again" ? Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 29 May 2026 4:56:36 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/reel/1561983125632858
That's surely a way to bring about harmony between them ! Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 30 May 2026 10:02:37 PM
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Everyone Is Sick Of Noticing
http://youtu.be/2Y4RxsAkL-Y It sounds like you don't want to be culturally enriched Indy. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 30 May 2026 11:22:13 PM
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Hi AC,
The colonisers are being colonised. The British colonised Pakistan, now the Pakistani's are colonising Britain. Seems fair. Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 31 May 2026 4:57:05 AM
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Hi Paul,
I can only be so progressive sorry. I support the Palestinians as a matter of human rights and I'm not against foreign people (but I am against too many of them - a third of the country wasn't even born here, I think that's enough) Time to stop and reflect and figure our nation out maybe. When the existing Aussies are saying hey, this doesn't feel like my country anymore, and I can't afford rent or make ends meet, I have to side with them. I don't know how bad things are down south but I imagine worse than in my neck of the woods. I'm not against helping people out, happy to assist the people of Tuvalu. I don't want imported conflict to a level of boiling point. - But I do generally support the Palestinian protests. Someone has to apply pressure to Israel and say loud and clear that what they do is wrong. I've been following along this LEGO story for the last day. This 83 year old man had his Lego collection stolen by a chain store, and this youtube influencer Reckless Ben has gone viral trying to get it back, it's as though all the police are protecting the thief because they're all Mormons. It's crazy. I tracked down the thief who stole $200,000 of LEGO http://youtu.be/wscQpkcwgNU Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 31 May 2026 5:26:10 AM
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Seems fair.
Paul1405, Yes, and, the Pakistanis objected strongly to the point of still objecting. Now that Britain objects to being invaded, not colonised by them, invaded & suddenly it's wrong ! You know, colonising & introducing a better way of life is vastly different to simply overrunning i.e. invading & bring misery & crime & general unsavoury mess ! Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 31 May 2026 6:46:18 AM
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Hi AC,
My comment was a little tongue in cheek, a bit of irony I would say, the British occupy Pakistan, the Pakistanis occupy Britain (laugh) seems fair. I'm all for controlled immigration, be its in some third world countries, surprisingly the countries with the most immigrants from the third world are third world countries, they call them refugees. Turkey and Iran are home to about 3.5 million displaced persons each, living under atrocious conditions. The Palestinians are refugees in their own "country", although the Israelis dispute whose country it is. Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 31 May 2026 8:39:13 AM
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Been watching a lot of Youtube regarding migrant behaviour all over Europe. Everything points at followers & supporters of Islam wherever abuse & even straight-out violence plays out.
I believe Australia must have a referendum on yes/no acceptance/denying Shariah before the next election & also policies on the subject from each political party up front. Australia already hate speech laws but they're only imposed on people who question Islam but not for those who support it ! All levels ol Government & Imams must come clean on that before the polls open ! Thus far, only One Nation has had the decency to put its proposals on the table ! Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 2 June 2026 3:55:46 PM
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Ealier remarks here were unhappy that this Israel vs Islam
had been going for a suggested 10 years. Sorry, it has been a lot longer, try 1400 years. It came from Mohammad's hatred of Jews and Jewish villages. It came from his time as a desert brigand raider in Arabia. So when he started Islam Jew hatred was built in. Then when he sent the Arab armies into Mesopotamia they took Islam with them. Posted by Bezza, Thursday, 4 June 2026 4:34:42 PM
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Buzz,
The Europeans managed to stave them off for a few hundred years but Democracy has opened the doors for Islam to regain Europe without a fight, criminal elements aside ! I read quite frequently that Islam wants to live in peace with others yet their preachings are about peace AFTER conquering the whole World ! Or, do I not understand correctly ? Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 4 June 2026 6:17:40 PM
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"It came from Mohammad's hatred of Jews and Jewish villages."
- The Jews weren't just 'happening' to be doing things that offended all the other people by chance? - Was Mohammad just born a hater, 'a bad egg'? Google? 'Did Jews actions lead to the creation of Islam?' AI Overview The creation of Islam in the 7th century was not directly caused by the actions of Jews, but early Islamic history was heavily influenced by theological, political, and social interactions with Jewish communities in the Arabian Peninsula.Key aspects of this relationship include: Theological Influence: Early Islam developed within a "primordial soup" of pre-existing monotheistic traditions, heavily influencing its monotheistic structure, jurisprudence, and practices. Initial Expectations and Rejection: Muhammad expected the Jewish tribes in Medina to embrace his message, as he considered Islam a continuation of the tradition of Abraham and Moses. Political Conflict: When Jewish tribes did not accept him as a prophet—arguing that prophecy had ceased—conflicts arose, resulting in the exile or elimination of Jewish tribes in Medina. Shift to Mecca: Following the deterioration of relations with the Jewish communities, Muhammad changed the direction of prayer (qibla) from Jerusalem to Mecca. So, it seems its the Jews fault, for not being inclusive enough. 'Your claims are bogus Mohammad! You're a fraud, get outta here, and don't ya come back here again! do you hear?' - And then there was Islam? Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 4 June 2026 6:56:55 PM
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Hi AC
"Initial Expectations and Rejection: Muhammad expected the Jewish tribes in Medina to embrace his message, as he considered Islam a continuation of the tradition of Abraham and Moses." I understand that both Christianity and Islam were extensions of Judaism, and both prophets Christ and Mohammad were rejected by Jews, which resulted in the three major monotheistic religions of today. Although Christianity and Islam developed much broader appeal, thus over 2 billion followers each today, whilst Judaism has only 15 million less than 0.5% of the other two combined. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 4 June 2026 7:36:41 PM
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About time that gutless Penny Wong came out and said something.
Footage of the Aussie girl telling her story has been floating around foreign independent media for a while. Penny Wong says she believes Israeli soldiers sexually assaulted and abused Australian women after Gaza flotilla http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/jun/04/gaza-flotilla-australian-women-assaulted-abused-israeli-detention-penny-wong-ntwnfb If this is how they treat Australians imagine how the treat Palestinians. This might've been a good story for Grace Tame. Oh that's right she been cancel cultured by the genociders. Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 5 June 2026 6:05:06 AM
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Three Lebanese hospitals hit by Israeli forces in under a week
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/03/lebanese-hospitals-hit-by-israeli-forces And you wonder why Muslim hospital nurses are saying the things they do. What is it with Israel's lust for blowing up hospitals. Sick. Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 5 June 2026 6:10:00 AM
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Hi AC,
Hospitals like schools are perfectly "legitimate" targets, as its causes outrage and death when you hit them. If I wanted to put fear into a massive number of people in your local area, I wouldn't attack lots of houses, as much, but target things like hospitals, schools, shopping centre, places where people are concentrated, places where I could inflict the most targeted damage with the minimum force. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 5 June 2026 7:02:00 AM
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Perhaps if the victim claiming agitators stopped hiding in Hospitals behind women & children then the buildings wouldn't be targeted !
Just saying ! Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 5 June 2026 4:12:01 PM
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Some are saying it could last for as long as 10 years or even longer. Now that's a long time.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-27/israeli-military-expert-predicts-gaza-war-to-last-10-more-years/105569040
Is a two state solution part of the way forward or is there another option? I am not sure with the current situation going on for so long, but I try to remain optimistic with a two state solution.
http://theconversation.com/a-two-state-solution-is-gaining-momentum-again-for-israel-and-the-palestinians-does-it-have-a-chance-of-success-257890
Could there also be hope and forgiveness from both sides as a way forward for other reasons or will this current conflict be something that Israelis and Palestinians never move on from and hold on to for the rest of their lives?