Hi Trumpster,

"If they're earning enough to pay taxes then they don't need welfare"

Is that so, people on the Aged Pension or Sickness Benefits, Australian citizens that is, who previously paid income tax should be kicked off social security, as they once paid taxes. There are already conditions in place concerning permanent residents and welfare. These people pay the same taxes as everyone else, but you want to keep their contributions for Australian citizens only. Are you being racists, have you signed up with the White Australia Party, they need 1500 and $500 to get registered with the AEC, you would make an outstanding member.

Actually, there's really only one group of migrants that Australians would prefer to stop coming here. Qualified to work or not !

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1320617416672748
Watch this & then tell us where the scapegoating Is in that !

Paul,

It seems the logic of this issue is going way over your head.

1. You're the only one talking about race here. I specifically said that citizens should be eligible for welfare IRRESPECTIVE of race and non-citizens shouldn't get welfare IRRESPECTIVE of race. But since all your other attempts to run cover for the government's policies don't stack up, you try to fall back on the old stand-by of just yelling 'racist' in the belief that trumps all logical argument. Hint: it doesn't and just shows that the person yelling 'racist' can't put two logic thoughts together.

2. "Is that so, people on the Aged Pension or Sickness Benefits, Australian citizens that is, who previously paid income tax should be kicked off social security, as they once paid taxes.:
That's not even close to what I said. Not in the same ball-park, not in the same postcode, not even in the same hemisphere. But again, since all your other attempts at trying to justify the unjustifiable have fallen flat, completely misrepresenting facts is your only fall back.

Now, for those with two brain cells to rub together:
We are importing people on the basis that we need them to improve our national well-being and economic performance. Quite how it is helping our national well-being by importing people and then paying them welfare because they're not working or not working enough, is something that only governments and their fly-monkeys (looking at you Paul) will fall for.

Hi Trumpster,

I'm glad to hear you're not being racists about all this citizen and non-citizen nonsense. I would hate to think you or anyone else would vote One Nation simply based on racism. Good Stuff!

Try this and tell me what you would do;

A native of Ethiopia migrates to Australia aged 27, gets a job pays taxes, pays GST etc for the next 40 years, just like the good citizens do, but the Ethiopian never took out citizenship, remaining a non-citizen/permanent resident. At age 67 he applies for the Aged Pension, are you going to grant it to him? Yes/No.

On the other hand we have a migrant from the mother country, Britain, Celtic Anglo-Saxon of course, is there any other kind. This chap also aged 27 quickly takes citizenship, but unfortunately can't work and pay taxes for the next 40 years because of his "Mediterranean Back" complaint. He to on reaching the age of 67 applies for the Aged Pension, are you going to grant it to him? Yes/No

Hmm... Well.

"1. You're the only one talking about race here. I specifically said that citizens should be eligible for welfare IRRESPECTIVE of race and non-citizens shouldn't get welfare IRRESPECTIVE of race. But since all your other attempts to run cover for the government's policies don't stack up, you try to fall back on the old stand-by of just yelling 'racist' in the belief that trumps all logical argument. Hint: it doesn't and just shows that the person yelling 'racist' can't put two logic thoughts together."

It's an interesting form of discourse we've all acquiesced to, isn't it?
All Paul had to do was say 'racist' and look at him, struggling helplessly and flopping around in quicksand, unable to get out.
Like, it really doesn't matter whether what he said was valid or not, now he's the one on the defence.

In the bigger picture, how easily we are we divide against each other.
How far are we going to get as a nation if we carry on like this, seriously?

These idiot leaders we have claim 'unity', but the people have neutered themselves so badly with political correctness that even grown adults can't even have a valid discussion.

Well I think your argument about welfare for non-immigrants is valid mhaze.
But I'm happy for Paul to keep calling you racist instead.
You rarely ever admit when the other person in a discussion has a valid argument, and you too make use of the same kinds of phrases when it suits you, right?

Instead of acknowledging valid criticisms of DJT you'll jump on the tired old Trump Derangement Syndrome, right?
Which is an attempt to nullify the validity of any argument and justify attacking (to silence) the person making said argument.

When you say, 'You know what, this form of discourse is pointless and it sucks' and mean it by stop behaving the same way, then maybe I'll care because until we ALL wake up, valid discussions will continue to go nowhere.