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Immigration and people who should not be here

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Even without tides, permanent "hills" and "valleys" exist across the global ocean surface due to differences in ocean currents, Earth's gravity, wind patterns, and water density."
Paul1405,
They increase to volume enough to a threatening rise & the islands are so stable ? No, lad, the islands are constantly moving up or down but mostly down. Actually, it'd be interesting if you'd have the figures by how much the seas level has changed this year with the record ice build-up in the polar regions. Did it cause much concern with canoes getting stranded ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 24 May 2026 2:33:31 PM
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Stop beating around the bush !
We all know where the main problem is.
It is the moslem community; there I am not afraid to say it!
Their religious aim is a Caliphate run as a religious government
such as Iran with Sharia Laws and either unbelievers being
second class citizens or preferably dead.
The Koran says it loud enough for the woke lefties to understand.
For goodness sake they have said that is their aim often enough
and it has been their successful technique for 1400 years.

Look at Britain, prayers before Birmingham City Council meeting
were given by an imman in Arabic.
That is just the latest insult.
To correct the situation we have now will mean trampling on a
number of pet policies but survival will always be messy.
Posted by Bezza, Sunday, 24 May 2026 10:23:24 PM
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Bezza

Well said. Only idiots thought it was sensible to import Muslims into Australia or anywhere else in the West. Immigration - more correctly infiltration - is a major part of achieving a world caliphate.

Stubborn fools like Albanese will never admit that they are wrong. But they will go down with the rest of us. Their self-importance and arrogance will not allow them to admit that they have made the biggest mistake ever, or that they are totally responsible for what is happening. Allowing Muslims in, which they did not have to do, makes them like the frog who carried the scorpion across the river. Look it up of you haven't heard that story.

I believe it is too late to turn back the tide now, given the treacherous bastards in Canberra who are definitely too frightened to admit the truth about Islam. They are feeding the crocodile, hoping it will never get around to eating them - but it will.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 24 May 2026 11:12:31 PM
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Armchair Critic said "It doesn't build wealth for Australians if combined we spend 200 million on toasters instead of 100 million on toasters, when they both do exactly the same thing."

Answer- At least it would offset the cost of the government paying the Australian's to "work from home". Consumption is a socio-political act- and has consequences. It's good to hold people accountable for the harm they do. Usually the workers parties use Keynesian economics (unemployment is the biggest evil) and business parties use Friedman economics (inflation is the biggest evil, but they also believe in free trade). By using tariffs you can help equalize competition and employment while keeping government budgets balanced- a balance of the concerns of both the workers and businesses (both Liberals but it seems to satisfy the "anti-Liberal" Traditionalists too). The only other complexity is the Friedman observation that government intervention is usually misapplied.

Note- Just because Traditionalist's could be considered 'relatively' anti-liberal doesn't mean that they are completely against change (progressivism) or liberal freedom (free trade or 'Mill' free society)- it's more that they don't believe in change or freedom for it's own sake. In their view freedom and stability needs to be balanced. And change should have a clear purpose. Traditionalist's understand that liberalism can be weaponized against the people.

John Stewart Mill wrote On Liberty that defined freedom as being based on "the harm principle"- the fallacy of the harm principle is that everything causes harm, and complexity in society causes harm, Mill considered this point in the book, but liberals studiously overlook it. Another view of freedom is Aristotle's "virtue based freedom"- "You can't be free when you are a slave to your desires- so your desires need to be bounded by morality." Strauss wrote a paper "Two Conceptions of freedom".

Often the public doesn't understand that there are multiple conceptions of freedom (and of truth). But tricky operators use words such as freedom and truth dishonestly without highlighting this subtlety.
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 24 May 2026 11:45:53 PM
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Hi AC,

What I know about the island nation of Tuvalu, population 10,000 on 9 low islands/atolls of 10 sq miles in area, located in the South Pacific Ocean, just west of the International Date Line. The islands were probably settled during the Great Polynesian Migration period about 3,000 years ago. The problem they face now is rising sea levels, which causes both inundation (loss of amenity) and salinity (can't grow crops). Presently there are small diasporas of Tuvaluan's living in New Zealand and Eastern Australia.

The Falepili (capital "city" of Tuvalu) Union Treaty allows all Tuvaluan the opportunity to migrate to Australia, among other things, in return for Australia having a say in Tuvalu's international affairs (that's aimed at China). 8,000 have signed up to the migration deal, but only 280 annually allowed in under Australia's strict migration rules. Not all Tuvaluan's are happy with the deal, believing they have given up their sovereignty for not much in return.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 25 May 2026 5:54:30 AM
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Hi kudos Kid,

I have no problem with people wanting to preserve their identity through their customs and traditions. I do have a problem with people who use that "traditionalism" to attack others, different to themselves on racial or religious grounds, believing they alone have a superior right over all others. The Neo-Nazi white supremacists are such people, who are willing to resort to violence to exert their authority over "lesser humans". Where does that put you, with your apartheid and other dangerous ideas?
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 25 May 2026 6:39:13 AM
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