Something for One Nation - the only party with an immigration policy - to think about.

UK's Reform Party leader Nigel Farage has said that, not only will his party deport illegal immigrants, they will housed in ‘removal centres’ in areas that voted for the Greens and open borders.

Here, very few people vote for the Greens, but there are oodles of Labor and Teal seats in which to detain Australia's illegals (70-100,000 of them) and the scum who don't share our values. Tony Burke's electorate for starters.

A bit nasty you might think; but why shouldn't electorates that vote for idiotic policies not be the ones to bear the “lion's share of the problems they cause”?

Idiotic nonsense!

Australia is not Britain, the majority of people in Australia illegally (unlawful non-citizens) arrive by plane (over 90%) with valid visas and subsequently become illegal by overstaying their visas or breaching visa conditions, for example working illegally on a tourist visa. While boat arrivals often receive high political focus, they represent a small minority of unauthorised arrivals, with the vast majority of "overstayers" arriving legally by air.

"the scum who don't share our values." Do we need some kind of AVP Australian Values Police, tasked with locking up anyone who prefers a kebab to a meat pie!

"Here, very few people vote for the Greens"

At the 2025 federal election The Greens received 1,889,977 votes (12.2%) The wack job party One Nation, received about half as many votes 991,814 (6.4%).

Hi Paul
I actually agree with ttbn's argument in this instance.
Electorates more supportive of immigrants should accomodate them themselves.

I don't think it's fair that a pro-immigrant electorate vote for more immigration, and that an electorate opposed to immigration should shoulder the burden of them.

Hi AC,

Not sure how that would work. People don't vote on the one issue, immigration is just one issue. What about skilled migrants, needed in a supposedly anti-immigration electorate? What if the electorate swings the other way next time, do we "deport" a whole cohort from that electorate to another. What if there is not available housing in their new location, do they sleep in the local park? What about those voters in the immigrant electorate, who voted the other way, do they move out? In my street there are several immigrant nationalities, Pom, Kiwi, Indian do they all have to move elsewhere if the electorate changes hands in a couple of years time? What about those electorates perceived as say, "strong on crime", do we close down prisons elsewhere and build a new prison there, maybe relocate in 4 years time, back to where it was.

Thought bubbles are great, but they often burst when exposed to the light of day. The idea sounds populist, and the likes of One Nation is a populist party, with very little substance to support it.

It's a shame that so much of the English language is misunderstood by so many people, or is just parroted as something people have heard their favourite commissars misuse, deliberately or ignorantly.

If you don't have ‘populism’ you are ruled by elites and ‘intellectuals’.

Heaven forbid that the masses should stymie, with their populism, the power of the elites who have been elected to serve them!

Hi Paul,
When I posted my previous comment I was going to add 'on the face value of it' to impart that it was a somewhat ignorant opinion that I hadn't considered all the aspects such as the ones you brought up.

"What if the electorate swings the other way next time, do we "deport" a whole cohort from that electorate to another."

Lol. But it's also interesting if you think the electorate might potentially swing the other way.
Wouldn't that therefore mean that there's a potential that woke trendies may in fact vote for the immigrants, and then once they have them for a while they might say, 'No, we want a refund! Send 'em back NOW!'.

Silly voters.

It's a lesson though, once you choose it you can't unchoose it.
Maybe there should've been a few rich trendy up market suburbs that had progressive thinking people and with progressive ideas about immigrants used as 'pilot programmes' first.

Fill those woke suburbs with Muslims and Somali's, let them have African crime gangs running around with machetes, doing home invasions, let them have the increased crime and theft.
Go back in 2 years and ask them if they still feel the same way about immigration or if they were ignorant about their choice.

- That immigrants in the country benefited them financially in business and house prices, but just as long as THEY didn't bear the impacts?

Is it not fair to say inner city woke trendies vote left,
They live in rich inner city suburbs and send their kids to Uni.
They own expensive homes and businesses and work in the city on high salaries with their stock and housing portfolios.

They gain from increase in housing prices, lower wages from increased workers to staff their businesses and boost their share portfolios performance from a better economy from immigrant workers.

Would the woke inner city trendies accept and live with what they chose, the african crime gangs, home invasions, theft etc. or move somewhere else away from the mess they made?

As for Australia not being Britain, it is much like Britain in that it is still the ‘mother’ country that founded Australia. We have the same type of government and values (that many people in both countries now sneer at). And Australia is more and more aping what happens in Britain.

And, Britain has Reform: we have One Nation, with polling in both countries showing that people are fed up with what is being done to them by their political class.

Both countries are a multicultural mess. Both current governments prefer buying votes by legally importing cultures more used to low wages and conditions, plus authoritarian rule. Both the British governments and the Australian one have caused their countries to become almost unrecognisable as Western, democratic, sovereign nations.

Both governments have made an art of division and ‘diversity’, loaded in favour of the newcomers they have flooded both countries with.

Not ‘being Britain’ obviously doesn't mean that Australia is not suffering from the same ailments.

The tragedy about both countries is that they are no longer the countries they used to be, to the detriment of them both.

Hi AC,

Why people vote for a particular political party today is becoming increasingly unclear. Those holding a solid party allegiance (the rusted on voter) are rapidly decreasing in number. At one time many people simply voted for "their party of choice" based on a broad allegiance to the principles of that party, people held notions like; "Labor is for the worker, I'm a worker, I vote Labor". Young people in particular, now well and truly the majority of voters, have no problem placing the number one against the name of a entirely different party/candidate than they did last time. For the first or second time voters, they are very much looking for progressive candidates, seeing the major parties, particularly the Coalition (and Labor), as too intractable, too conservative and not representing their values and interests. I don't think the Big Two parties can reverse the trend, their day has well and truly come. The voting system will continue to give them an electoral advantage for the time being, but inevitably they will loose that advantage as their primary vote declines.

The voters Farrer have shown what they think of legacy politics, and have gone ‘populist’ - that sneer word used by arrogant elites.

Populism describes what the people think. And the legacy parties don't like people thinking for themselves; nor does the mainstream media which, like the legacy political parties, is on the wane. In Australia, only 32% of people trust the MSM, and 69% shun news programs. The polls are showing that the Liberal/Labor alliance should be terrified, but as stupid people, more dangerous than outright malicious people, they think that they are smarter than everyone else.

The stupid U.S Democrats were shocked when the more politically astute (than Australians) Americans replaced them with ‘populist’ Trump. Some Republicans were shocked too (they have their wets). Here's hoping that the same thing will happen in the UK, and particularly in our own country. At least for as long as it takes to get rid of the stupid politicians who have had their jobs for far too long.

Interviewed last night about the Farrer by-election, Angus Taylor opined that Australians wanted to get rid of the “rotten Labor government”.

On the humiliation of his own rotten party, he admitted that the Liberals had breached the trust of the voters who used to support them, and that it will take a long time to get it back.

Too late for that, many ex-Liberal voters would say. They aren't going back.

He also admitted that mass immigration, net zero and big government spending have proved to be bad for Australia.

But, he was too pigheadedly stupid to talk about One Nation, although that party seems to have received about 60% of the vote after preferences in Farrer.

The uniparty just doesn't get it.

Agree ttbn, I think One Nations success and their
performance in parliament will cast a whole new
attitude to political thought.
One look at the crowd that welcomed the Isis Brides
back only confirmed what we "conservatives" thought anyway.

When you add the anti Noalition vote to the protest vote you get 60%. With the Noalition loosing their heartland, the Liberals have lost the cities and the Nationals have lost the regions, there's not much left, what is left all those supporters located in the Simpson Desert! Despite all the babble you get from some here, Labor is holding the middle ground, which to have any chance of forming government a party must hold the majority of the middle ground.

As I said a couple of weeks back, the Noalition cynically preferencing One Nation over the independent was a bad move for them. It also gave One Nation and undeserved air of legitimacy in the minds of moderate voters.

As for Fungus Taylor, he's a complete flop! With his vote for me I'm just like the Lovely Pauline and Dangerous Donald all rolled up in one.

Bezza

Thanks. Many people are now more confident that there is a move back to the right; but the right is no longer the Liberal Party. Too many wets. The deputy leader is a wet. Taylor doesn't seem to know what he is. The Nationals might be able team up with One Nation. Brigette McKenzie has already said that they would be interested.

But I think that it's all over for the Liberals. Like Labor, they still have a weak leader, and also like Labor, they they don't have anyone in waiting. Their big hope, Hastie, has shown that he was all mouth and trousers, and the only other possible candidate, Senator Patterson made a fool of himself with a One Nation volunteer.

Their 11.9% of the Farrer vote, that Sussan Ley held for 25 years says a lot. There last test in SA left them with 7 seats.

As for the ISIS brides, the Labor party is lying about the inability to refuse them entry into Australia. They and the mainstream media have told the lie so many times that people now believe it.

Wet deputy leader of the wandering Liberals Jane Hume, when asked whether or not the Farrer election was a strong rejection of her party, said the bleeding obvious: they have lost trust and their humiliation after 25 years holding the electorate was a mere “disappointment”.

Asked if the Liberals had possibly lost the trust of their rapidly shrinking support base for ever, she wasn't sure. They had to “rebuild the trust”, and all the blah that the party has been spouting for the last 4 years, without doing a thing about it!

The ABC, horrified by the result, banged on about the Farrer result “legitimising” One Nation. Shock! Horror!.

And, of course, the ABC reminded us how “racist” and “bigoted” One Nation is. The standard leftist response to losing.

“Populism (that misused, misunderstood word again”) led by a ‘long term racist’”, screamed the Sydney Morning Herald. And, someone how evil foreigners(!) were involved.

The left loves foreigners and imports thousands of them to keep themselves in power. But these foreigners, whoever they were - if they existed at all - were not pleasing to the Leftist scribbler responsible for the SMH vomit.

Loss certainly unhinges the Left.

The Libs and Nats got smashed because they have paid lip service to conservative voters yet repeatedly failed to deliver.

Of course, the rise of ONP has nothing to do with racism and bigotry and more to do with people who think net zero and economic policies of nations like Zimbabwe a good idea and of the centre.

I pity the poor little koalas as they didn't vote for the lunatics.

The best description of the political class, seen recently, has them as “Pusillanimous, shiftless and vacillating”. They are “obsessed with the latest focus groups”. They are “Deferential to advisors who have lamentable track records and appear to believe in nothing except the next pay cheque”. They are the “worst political class in at least a century”.

Let's hope the displeasure we are told now exists among voters on both sides of politics results in as many of the awful politicians as possible being removed at the next federal election.

There is no guarantee that One Nation will always be sweet, but they are giving us the opportunity to get rid of people who have proved over the last 30 years that they are rubbish.

Scott Heathwood, ‘Noblesse Oblige died last night’, writes that the Coalition was “finally pronounced dead” at the Farrer election.

And it's a good thing. After Howard they “caught the disease” of treating people under them as fools and peasants who couldn't be trusted to run their own lives, and treated us like idiots (Covid, net zero, Safety Commissioner, etc) who had to be forcefully “vaccinated, regulated, monitored, decarbonised, re-educated, reassured, and protected from themselves”.

In Farrer last Saturday, the dragon woke up.

All politicians need to stop helping - i.e interfering.

We now know, or should know, that the Liberal is not a party distinguishable from Labor.

The voters in Farrer knew that.

We will I think see One Nation change slowly as they
get more MPs as they are spreading their areas of interest.
It is just the way things are.

I also see that the biggest decision to be made will be
how to support those opposed to a nuclear Iran.
That is the number one problem facing the world.
China and Russia should not fold their arms and grin.
They are definitely on the list.

when Albo is called a dog to his face in a mosque and a reporter a slut and no 'hate ' speech laws are enacted you know what a cowardly treacherous Government is in place. I guarantee if it was not a protected species (labor/greens voters) these men would be in gaol or deported.

Yes fools, you can count on the Lovely Pauline to look after the battlers and the little people as she jets around in her sexy new plane supplied by the equally lovely Gina Rhinoceros! As Pauline would say; "I'll never forget the battlers and the little people who propelled me to power, whatever their names be...WHO CARES, LET THEM EAT CAKE!"

Runner,

Since Albanese was called a dog in the mosque, I believe that his minders are all carrying green dog poop bags to clean up after him.

On immigration, which is the actual theme here, the budget reveals all Labor's lies, but in particular, shows that they have been lying about reducing immigration, which will blow out again in 2026-27 period.

We cannot believe a word we get from Albanese Labor.

Where are all these excess immigrants staying now ?
Are they all couch surfing or are they giving up and leaving.
If they are arriving at 500 to 1000 each day they have to be somewhere ?

Nice to see the forums usual suspects supporting the party of Rapists & Racists.
"If they are arriving at 500 to 1000 each day they have to be somewhere? Yep that's right, we'll put em' up at Basil and Toady's house.

Bezza

They are probably settled where they were when they first arrived.

Tens of thousands of them are believed to have been here for 15 to 20 years. Very comfortably ensconced in a country lacking the will or courage to get rid of them. They are not new arrivals. The housing crisis and other problems didn't just suddenly appear; it happened slowly, until it is now biting hard.

And you can bet your bottom dollar that the ones who have been able to live here illegally without getting caught are making money by hiding and advising people whose visas have recently expired.

As very few immigrants have permanent accommodation prospects before they arrive here, the migrant underworld would be very rewarding, and we can't discount the possibility of people who should be doing something about it having their palms greased with some of that money.

And, remember, most people who come here now are Third Worlders who are used to crowded living spaces. Lots of them in one room.

I do not think it is as simple as some here are suggesting.
The planes are arriving with up to 100 on each. Do the math !
Either the increased claimed is wrong or they do not exist.
Or they are being smuggled in by the government.
Who can fiddle the Commonwealth Stats figures ?
If they do exist or they are not departing then they
must be sleeping in the streets.

Angus Taylor has claimed that he has finally woken up to the fact that , “Dishing out billions and billions of dollars to people in this country who are not citizens for welfare, that’s not fair on hard-working Australian citizens”.

Well, it's going to continue that way for another two years, then Taylor has to win the election - if he is still the leader by then - and, if he does win, he has to remember what he said and act on it. Highly doubtful that anything will happen, judging by what the Australian political class has become - lying and incompetent.

So, his “promissed” restrictions of certain welfare payments to non-citizens means diddly squat for the next two years, and probably thereafter. His “plan” to reduce immigration is in the same category.

Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson said that “a lot of Australians would be shocked that non - citizens can access welfare”. If they took enough interest in what their political class gets up to or they cared, that is. Australians should really be called Ostrichalians as they keep their heads in the sand most of the time.

Naturally, the unhinged Greens Senator David Shoebridge thinks there should be no difference between permanent residents and Australian citizens when it comes to welfare.

If they are not fit for citizenship, or they don't want to be Australian citizens, they should not be here. Permanent citizenship should be scrapped together, in my opinion.

He blurts the old chestnut that permanent residents are “critical to building our country”. Perhaps. But they don't think enough of the country to sign up as actual Australians (so why do they want to live here permanently) or they are not considered to be suitable citizens, which would be odd, with Burke handing out citizenship willy nilly to people who haven't even been vetted.

Shoebridge says he wouldn't want to live in a country that did what Taylor ‘might’ do. That’s fine. He could find a country more to his liking and piss off. He wouldn't be missed. And it would mean one fewer idiot with his head in the public through.

Shoebridge is, though, OK living in a country with treasonous ISIS brides. He threw that one in because Taylor did not want them allowed back in - just like “an overwhelming majority” of Australians don't want them here.

Only an extremist would want non-citizens getting the same treatment as citizens. Non-citizens are damn lucky to be tolerated, and they are looked after by health services and essential human rights.

Australian citizens who bring out elderly, non-productive parents are already responsible for their upkeep of those people, not Australia. And that's as it should be.

There are even more Australian born than immigrants who shouldn't be here ! Ethnicity is only a minority component, ideology & mentality are the crucial parts.
The idea of multiculturalism is mere academic as in reality every culture has bad apples & many of the home-grown are right-out poisonous !
Everything is about Rights, we never get to hear of responsibilities ! All we hear about is law breakers getting off perpetually ! People who do nothing get awards & recognition as heroes whilst real heroes fall into oblivion !
Buying votes should be treason not a step up in Bureaucracy ! Why isn't integrity & empathy taught in schools ? Is it because teachers & bureaucrats don't know the meaning of the words ?

Indyvidual

32% of the population (not sure how many of them are citizens) were born overseas. I don't know of any data on whether or not their offspring automatically adopt their parents culture and any unpleasant dangerous ideas they might have.

One hopes that the education system would teach those kids born here what is expected of them. But it's probably a forlorn hope, given Communist teachers’ unions the Albanese government hating our culture, and encouraging the retention of alien culture, while devaluating their own.

32% is not a trivial number, and it will only grow while Albanese is around. And, Australians are simply not reproducing themselves, thanks to the cost of living, also a gift from Albanese, and the necessity of two incomes per household, while the children who are being born are packed off to child care centres where strangers bring them up, not their mothers.

The Socialist government intends to get hold of even more children, with early “learning” centres for 3 year olds opening next year - advertised on the taxpayer dollar every night.

Mass immigration and multiculturalism are the very worst things that have happened to Australia, apart from the election of the most left wing ever Albanese Labor government and the collapse of the Liberal Party.

As always, the problem is Canberra.

Hi Indy,

Fungus Taylor has YOU lined up for the boot, back to that now nonexistent sh!tsville from whence you came. "offspring automatically adopt their parents culture and any unpleasant dangerous ideas they might have." Did you get them from nonno and nanna, or did you think them up yourself?

When will immigration be run by Australians again ?

Foreign Government sponsored migrants can't possibly have Australia's interest at heart !

... Speaking of people that should not be here
I just found a new recipient for the Joseph Mengler award.
That's when scientists come up with such dangerous ideas they become a genuine threat to others.
http://youtu.be/vgJjd1MSJdU

This nutcracker wants to address 'really big world problems through bioengineering'
He's all excited talking about how 'humans could be infected by ticks to become intolerant of meat'
He should be publicly flogged and imprisoned for the remainder of his natural life.

Bio-engineering has caused more problems for humanity than it can deal with. The scientists should really focus on human stupidity but because the stupid are voting in Governments that support Science willy nilly, not much will change in the near future.

Hi Indy,

I couldn't agree more! Bring back the good old days, when a bloke could squat outside his cave, (that's you), crack a few rocks, and stair at the night sky, and think what are all those twinkling little fire flies in the sky doing. Oh yes the good old days, when men were men, and ignorant as you.

Just watched a few minutes of Insight about Pauline Hanson. There were more white Australians among the audience who shouldn't be here than any other ethnicities.
The embarrassment to watch these morons actually hurt. The Muslim Sheila who makes comedy about Hanson lost credibility as her own eyes betrayed her & showed her true mentality.
The host was desperately phishing for someone the fit her own racism but failed to find racism among the audience.
The audience clearly showed who the actual racists & dumb as $hit self-haters are. Australia needs several Pauline Hanson's as one is clearly not enough to deal with the amount of stupidity engulfing us at this stage. Hopefully, more people will come to their senses in time.

This guy is interesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Ivanov

I think he might of worked on the Covid project.

"In the 1920s, Ivanov carried out a series of experiments to create a human/nonhuman ape hybrid in French Guinea. Three female chimpanzees were inseminated with human sperm, but he failed to create a pregnancy. In 1929, after returning to the Soviet Union, he attempted to organize a set of experiments involving nonhuman ape sperm and human volunteers but was delayed by the death of his last orangutan."

Perhaps if the Greens had their way our democracy sausages would become cockroach burgers.

I'm sure that some weird ideas can have good results, all ideas are weird when they are new. We need to be careful not to force these ideas on people where we can avoid it. Science should be used to inform not dictate.

I think that Pauline Hanson was saying that the (Traditionalist) Liberal Leader "Angas Taylor" himself isn't that bad, but the problem is that the Liberal party is dominated and hijacked by the Libertarian Free Trade "Moderates" that believe that all problems can be solved with money. The Shadow Treasurer was at the National Press Club today- head of the "moderates" within the Liberal party. The speech wasn't that bad, but in answering the questions he really showed his Libertarian stripes. The reality is free trade will never enable Australia to compete with China or India- even if they don't steal our tech they'll beat us with economies of scale. The exception to this is when we use our natural resources to create value added goods. Free Traders, like the Shadow Treasurer, believe in free movement of labour and capital and resources. Economist David Ricardo had similar views- but this doesn't work when one party doesn't do business in good faith (free trade probably never works, but sometimes it's useful).

Traditionalist's believe that money and business is not an end but a means.

Hi Kudos Kid,

Not sure what you are on about with the experiments of this Ivanov, which you seem to want to relate to the Greens, but I assume as one of the party faithful you are a big fan of Josef Mengele. Maybe you believe in the homegrown development of a super race. Why are you so ashamed of your political allegiance, I can only assume you are an active functionary within the movement, and have some "great" ideas on what the perfect human (and their slaves) should be.

I always wondered how much of a failure Ivanov's Super Soldiers actually were when I look around !

Hi Kudos Kid,

I find it interesting that you now use the term "traditionalist" to describe some very hard right people, a warm and fuzzy description indeed, rather than Fascists or Neo-Nazi, bad word association there. Would you describe Tommy Robinson in Britain, and Thomas Sewell in Australia as "traditionalist"?

As for Angus Taylor, I see him more of a Alfred Hugenberg figure than ant thing else. Willing to hop into bed with some bad people, for the sake of power.

An effing moron cooperating with deranged committing atrocities & then complaining bitterly when their actions cause perfectly forceable reactions, will never comprehend the old & true saying "You've got to be cruel to be kind" !

"Hi Kudos Kid,
I find it interesting that you now use the term "traditionalist" to describe some very hard right people, a warm and fuzzy description indeed, rather than Fascists or Neo-Nazi, bad word association there. Would you describe Tommy Robinson in Britain, and Thomas Sewell in Australia as "traditionalist"?
As for Angus Taylor, I see him more of a Alfred Hugenberg figure than ant thing else. Willing to hop into bed with some bad people, for the sake of power.
Posted by Paul1405"

Answer- I think that Paul1405 needs to review the definition of critical thinking. Then perhaps Paul1405 could review my posts to answer the questions that he asked.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/user.asp?id=72968&show=history

Paul1405 doesn't really want an answer- because he already knows the truth- but he doesn't.

Hi Kudos Kid,

I've reviewed your posts, and between all that kudos you are sprinkling I came to the conclusion that like you and others you have mentioned on the forum, both Tommy Robinson in Britain, and Thomas Sewell in Australia are "Traditionalist". Also I have come to the conclusion that Traditionalist is a synonym for Fascist and Neo-Nazi. Correct me if I am wrong.

CM,

The media is now openly referring to the Greens as Communists. It won't be long before the same moniker will be given to the Albanese Labor (not the original Labor). People are starting to wake up to just how far to the left Albanese is. Embarrassed “traditional” Labor voters are moving to One Nation with other social conservatives.

I agree with you on Angus Taylor. He will be stabbed in the back by wets. His deputy leader is a lefty. The party is riddled with lefties, including Tim Wilson.

Yes again to “free” trade. Australia will never have industry while Chinese goods are tariff-free. Albanese's and Wong's snivelling to China for fuel is pathetic, when we should be self-sufficient, and not just taking off roof racks and putting a couple of extra kps in the tyres. How silly do these bastards think we are!

Hi ttbn,

I don't know of any communists in the Greens, such media references are made in the extreme right wing gutter press, nowhere else. BUT there is evidence of One Nation people being Neo-Nazi's.

The media often report on the presence of Neo-Nazis attending rallies supporting One Nation.

Investigations have revealed instances of former One Nation candidates and associated figures having ties to far-right extremist groups.

"In March 2021, investigative reports identified Dean Smith, who ran as a federal candidate for Pauline Hanson's One Nation in 2019, as a participant in recruitment calls for the designated Neo-Nazi terrorist organisation, 'The Base'".

"Allan Beale, A volunteer and prominent campaign figure for One Nation was found to have actively supported and praised Neo-Nazi figure Thomas Sewell on social media. Beale was brought on stage by Pauline Hanson's party following a Farrer by-election victory."

"One Nation candidates, including leader Pauline Hanson, attended the "March for Australia" anti-immigration rallies, which were attended and promoted by members of Neo-Nazi organisations like the National Socialist Network."

"February 2026, a One Nation candidate was forced to publicly deny links to a far-right extremist group after photos emerged of him wearing the group's Nazi style merchandise."

There's enough smoke there to safely say there is a fire under One Nation, lit by Neo-Nazi's and Fascists!

There are no anti-immigration calls however, there are & rightly so, calls to stop "wrong" immigration ! These wrong migrants are from every ethnicity & culture but because the Immigration department is now saturated with personnel of wrong allegiance who clearly facilitate the import of incompatible or wrong people to out-breed the descendants of those who forged this Nation. Background checks & criminal history of applicants appears to be so slack now that a decent, conscientous & compatible migrant has literally no chance anymore. These types of "migrants" are perfectly suited for destabilisation of social & economic harmony.

Good to see the Australian government offer permanent resettlement to the people of TUVALU (Island nation of 10,000 in the Pacific) under the landmark Falepili Union treaty between the two countries. 8,000 Tuvaluans have applied, as their country sinks into the Pacific Ocean due to rising sea levels caused by man made global warming. This will be a managed migration with 280 Tuvaluans arriving each year.

I only hope is, if certain Forum lads should meet the new arrivals, that they welcome them with open arms. How about it ttbn, Indy, mhaze, runner, Fester and the Kudos Kid, are you up to welcoming our new arrivals?

Paul1405,
two interesting points there.
1; you state correctly that Tuvalu is sinking into the ocean & then
2; you state due to rising sea levels.
Which is it ? I'm inclined to go with 1 because if it was 2 then every coastal land on the planet would experience the rise in sea level. Water is self-levelling, it doesn't just rise on some selected islands & not at others.
Billions upon billions of tonnes of shipping, land reclamation add up to about 5-7 or so mm of increase in sea level but nowhere near the calamitous claims of some with ulterior motives to claim.
Tectonic plate movement will bring on a lot more disasters before long more than likely aided by oil & gas extraction causing voids to collapse etc. Human interference does cause a lot of harm due to the demands of consumers, most of whom are environmentalists as long as it is in their favour.

While Australia's loony immigration policy gets worse, America intends to require that non-citizens living in America will now have to return to their own countries to apply for the prized ‘green card’.

Included are individuals married to US citizens, holders of work and student visas, and refugees and political asylum seekers.

While legal immigration continues to be ridiculously slack in Australia, it's going to be harder in the U.S. The details still have to be worked out, but that's what is going to happen in a country that values its security and its citizens - unlike the Australian government.

The only objectors to the policy that SBS could come up with was ‘the American Immigration Lawyers Association”. Well, they would object wouldn't they, the parasites.

Ttbn- Thanks for your support mate. Kudos.

Hi Paul,
280 is barely higher than the birthrate.
What do the people there want to do?
Relocate to one place and try to stay together or split up and go to several neighbouring countries?

Hi ttbn,

"Yes again to 'free' trade. Australia will never have industry while Chinese goods are tariff-free. Albanese's and Wong's snivelling to China for fuel is pathetic, when we should be self-sufficient, and not just taking off roof racks and putting a couple of extra kps in the tyres. How silly do these bastards think we are!"

I have trouble understanding this line of thinking.
Let's say you put a 100% tariff on Chinese goods.

Do you not understand how much the price of everything will go up?
- Because more or less EVERYTHING manufactured that we use comes from China now.
So costs of everything will absolutely skyrocket across the board.

Do you think you can make an Aussie toaster and put it on the shelf retailing at $15 to compete with the chinese one at $7.50?
http://www.kmart.com.au/product/2-slice-toaster-white-42663881/
I think that's doubtful.
And so everyone in the country is paying a lot more for everything and the government has all this extra tariff money, but only if we keep buying the foreign made goods.
Is that not just another tax?
What do you use the extra tax for, subsidise industry?

So steal from all Australians at the checkout, and give subsidies to one company (and make them rich hoping the benefits trickle down) who can hire Australians on minimum wage to make $15 toasters that we could've already gotten for $7.50.

To me it does more harm than it does good.
We're better off getting the cheaper foreign made $7.50 toaster.

I absolutely agree with you though about self sufficiency.
But that doesn't necessary mean I think we should pay double for everything just for some idea or principle.

It doesn't build wealth for Australians if combined we spend 200 million on toasters instead of 100 million on toasters, when they both do exactly the same thing.

Ttbn said- "I agree with you on Angus Taylor. He will be stabbed in the back by wets. His deputy leader is a lefty. The party is riddled with lefties, including Tim Wilson. "

Answer- It's a little complicated but yes Libertarian's are Liberals according to Patrick Deneen.

I consider Churchill to be more wet than Chamberlain who seemingly was undone by the British media after Hitler broke his agreement. In a sense Chamberlain resigned because of the betrayal of British media rather than that of Hitler. Churchill was white anting Chamberlain (in moves that were reminiscent of Marxist tactics) for a while, a low move. Britain and Europe was broken after the war. History rushed to justify the allies actions, and the US was elevated to superpower status, seemingly on the back of the myth of German dreams of world domination, rather than getting back German national stolen lands ("revanchism") and unifying the Germanic peoples (so much for uniting the people much talked about within the union movement). But Hitler said he wanted to elevate Europe and protect European identity- in the current world of identity politics how do we rationalize the paradox of identity by Hitler and Wokeism- surely if Woke identity is valid so is Hitler's- of course it's always important to consider the means by which identity is preserved. In the end it seems that Hitler wanted to protect Germany and Europe, but Britain wanted to maintain dominance in Europe as they had since the Treaty Of Westphalia, and everyone lost because they couldn't agree on a plan, there were errors in judgement on all sides, and things got a little out of control. At the end they were looking for someone to blame.

We see the similar things in the European Union- cracking under the strain- founded on faulty principles- another failed product of attempted cooperation by disingenuous self serving "leaders"

Most Traditionalist's believe in preserving their identity, Paul1405 seemingly believes in preserving Aboriginal identity. Not sure why it's ok for Paul1405 but not for a bad dog, to preserve their identity- but everyone hates and wants to kill a bad dog- and they say the dog is the bigot.

It seems that Thomas Sewell and Tommy Robinson also believe in preserving their identity. I'm proud of Australia's fight against the German's in the war, even though I sometimes wonder if it was the right decision, but I'm also proud that Thomas and Tommy are standing up for my identity, even though I might be uncertain about some things they say or the way they say it. I understand that sometimes it's important that you say something when you see something wrong, even if it doesn't always come out right- sometimes you have to be controversial, even offensive- sometimes things get out of control. Personally I don't think that Tom or Tommy have met the threshold for terrorism- and I don't think that I can trust the AFP or ASIO to act objectively- or even understand what Tom and Tommy stands for. Most of the officers in the AFP and ASIO are just trying to keep their jobs- but the Stazi said the same thing. I think that the authorities including the AFP/ ASIO have become politicized by Woke Marxist governments. I believe that some of these governments should have been brought to the Governor General by the ASIO chief long before now due to treason against Australia, ASIO have warned about the risk enough times. But I suspect in spite of any treasonous political spirit it hasn't crossed the threshold, from plausible deniability, into something that ASIO has to act upon- yet. Sadly only the ASIO chief can initiate treason actions against a standing PM and even then it requires a joint sitting of parliament, which currently would keep the traitor. I believe that the power to initiate treason against a PM needs to be expanded to other institutions, to reduce risk of a coup.

Marxism sadly does seem to be within striking distance of reaching the threshold tipping point to dominate the world, ostensibly in the name of the slaves. Our ancestors in military service stood for us at great risk to themselves for what was right by us, I don't trust our AFP/ ASIO/ or police to do the same, captured by mass formation psychosis.

Hi Indy,

With your simple mind, no all oceans are at the same level, no unlike the sense you think of your bathtub being level with your rubber ducky floating around. The oceans are a bit more complex than that.

"No, the oceans are not all at the same level. Even without tides, permanent "hills" and "valleys" exist across the global ocean surface due to differences in ocean currents, Earth's gravity, wind patterns, and water density."

Hi ttbn,

"America intends to require that non-citizens living in America" Do you think it would be a good idea if they had something sown onto their clothing to identify those horrible non-citizens, maybe a star or something would identify them.

Hi AC,

It can be a trap to only associate cheap goods with cheap labour, as in the case of "toasters" and China/Australia. Economies of scale, investment, technology, world markets, technology they all play a part.
The Australian market for "TOASTERS" maybe only 1,500,000 p/a or 0.75% of total Chinese production of 200,000,000 annually. The Australian market is saturated with 90% of toasters sold are replacement, there's no growing market. There is no way a Australian toaster maker could compete, so it goodbye 'Sunbeam'.
The BEEF market is a different story, and it doesn't include cheap labour, its based on very efficient Australian production.

These Old Farts fools who think we can just cut off trade with China, bung on 1000% tariffs and produce everything for ourselves, and hope the Chinese wont notice, are living in Gar-Gar Land.

Lads,

I want you to brush up on your Tuvaluan national anthem, so when the first boat load arrives you can welcome them with a patriotic rendition. ttbn you can be lead vocals. Indy you can do an ethnic dance to make em' feel at home..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IvAnnq0Egg&t=49s

I just don't understand the logic.
You say we are good at raising cattle, then we should do more of that.
Different countries have different resources, isn't it pragmatic to use the blessings you have?

Not make every Aussie pay double the price so some 16 year old can work for minimum wage in a toaster manufacturing factory so we can all enjoy the luxury of having $15 toasters instead of $7.50 toasters.

Because this isn't just pointless, it's also stupid.

Why don't people just advocate for the government to just help themselves to peoples wallets, starting with their own of course.
- Here take what ever you like Albo, help yourself.
They don't, because THAT WOULD BE STUPID!

Even without tides, permanent "hills" and "valleys" exist across the global ocean surface due to differences in ocean currents, Earth's gravity, wind patterns, and water density."
Paul1405,
They increase to volume enough to a threatening rise & the islands are so stable ? No, lad, the islands are constantly moving up or down but mostly down. Actually, it'd be interesting if you'd have the figures by how much the seas level has changed this year with the record ice build-up in the polar regions. Did it cause much concern with canoes getting stranded ?

Stop beating around the bush !
We all know where the main problem is.
It is the moslem community; there I am not afraid to say it!
Their religious aim is a Caliphate run as a religious government
such as Iran with Sharia Laws and either unbelievers being
second class citizens or preferably dead.
The Koran says it loud enough for the woke lefties to understand.
For goodness sake they have said that is their aim often enough
and it has been their successful technique for 1400 years.

Look at Britain, prayers before Birmingham City Council meeting
were given by an imman in Arabic.
That is just the latest insult.
To correct the situation we have now will mean trampling on a
number of pet policies but survival will always be messy.

Bezza

Well said. Only idiots thought it was sensible to import Muslims into Australia or anywhere else in the West. Immigration - more correctly infiltration - is a major part of achieving a world caliphate.

Stubborn fools like Albanese will never admit that they are wrong. But they will go down with the rest of us. Their self-importance and arrogance will not allow them to admit that they have made the biggest mistake ever, or that they are totally responsible for what is happening. Allowing Muslims in, which they did not have to do, makes them like the frog who carried the scorpion across the river. Look it up of you haven't heard that story.

I believe it is too late to turn back the tide now, given the treacherous bastards in Canberra who are definitely too frightened to admit the truth about Islam. They are feeding the crocodile, hoping it will never get around to eating them - but it will.

Armchair Critic said "It doesn't build wealth for Australians if combined we spend 200 million on toasters instead of 100 million on toasters, when they both do exactly the same thing."

Answer- At least it would offset the cost of the government paying the Australian's to "work from home". Consumption is a socio-political act- and has consequences. It's good to hold people accountable for the harm they do. Usually the workers parties use Keynesian economics (unemployment is the biggest evil) and business parties use Friedman economics (inflation is the biggest evil, but they also believe in free trade). By using tariffs you can help equalize competition and employment while keeping government budgets balanced- a balance of the concerns of both the workers and businesses (both Liberals but it seems to satisfy the "anti-Liberal" Traditionalists too). The only other complexity is the Friedman observation that government intervention is usually misapplied.

Note- Just because Traditionalist's could be considered 'relatively' anti-liberal doesn't mean that they are completely against change (progressivism) or liberal freedom (free trade or 'Mill' free society)- it's more that they don't believe in change or freedom for it's own sake. In their view freedom and stability needs to be balanced. And change should have a clear purpose. Traditionalist's understand that liberalism can be weaponized against the people.

John Stewart Mill wrote On Liberty that defined freedom as being based on "the harm principle"- the fallacy of the harm principle is that everything causes harm, and complexity in society causes harm, Mill considered this point in the book, but liberals studiously overlook it. Another view of freedom is Aristotle's "virtue based freedom"- "You can't be free when you are a slave to your desires- so your desires need to be bounded by morality." Strauss wrote a paper "Two Conceptions of freedom".

Often the public doesn't understand that there are multiple conceptions of freedom (and of truth). But tricky operators use words such as freedom and truth dishonestly without highlighting this subtlety.

Hi AC,

What I know about the island nation of Tuvalu, population 10,000 on 9 low islands/atolls of 10 sq miles in area, located in the South Pacific Ocean, just west of the International Date Line. The islands were probably settled during the Great Polynesian Migration period about 3,000 years ago. The problem they face now is rising sea levels, which causes both inundation (loss of amenity) and salinity (can't grow crops). Presently there are small diasporas of Tuvaluan's living in New Zealand and Eastern Australia.

The Falepili (capital "city" of Tuvalu) Union Treaty allows all Tuvaluan the opportunity to migrate to Australia, among other things, in return for Australia having a say in Tuvalu's international affairs (that's aimed at China). 8,000 have signed up to the migration deal, but only 280 annually allowed in under Australia's strict migration rules. Not all Tuvaluan's are happy with the deal, believing they have given up their sovereignty for not much in return.

Hi kudos Kid,

I have no problem with people wanting to preserve their identity through their customs and traditions. I do have a problem with people who use that "traditionalism" to attack others, different to themselves on racial or religious grounds, believing they alone have a superior right over all others. The Neo-Nazi white supremacists are such people, who are willing to resort to violence to exert their authority over "lesser humans". Where does that put you, with your apartheid and other dangerous ideas?

Hi Paul,
'Australia having a say in Tuvalu's international affairs'
- What does that mean exactly?
"Not all Tuvaluan's are happy with the deal, believing they have given up their sovereignty for not much in return."
- I'm not sure I blame them for thinking that.

'Tuvalu became the 189th member of the United Nations on September 5, 2000. Tuvalu is one of 14 states not recognising the People's Republic of China. The country has played a role in advocating for more ambitious international cooperation on mitigating climate change, given the country's vulnerability to its impacts.
Tuvalu, one of the world's smallest countries, financed its membership at the United Nations with the revenue collected from its top-level domain .tv.'

'As of 2026, Tuvalu continues to officially recognize Taiwan (the Republic of China) rather than the People's Republic of China (PRC), making it one of the few nations to maintain this diplomatic stance.'

- I'm not sure how many of them can speak english well.

Hi AC,

Tuvalu become independent of Britain (Ellice Islands) in 1978, a constitutional monarchy with King Charles III as head of state. Both Tuvalun (Polynesian dialect) and English are the official languages. Judging by the Niueans and Cook Islanders I know, they all speak English.

True, Tuvalu is one of the few countries that recognises Taiwan and not Communist China. I'm sure China would like to change that arrangement, and I think Australia, on the US behalf, doesn't want that to happen. So the; 'Australia having a say in Tuvalu's international affairs'.

P/S, When living in Sydney we had Niuean friends (Niue population about 2,000), liked their national day celebrations, dancing music food etc, they are very religious and hospitable people who like very sweet "cake", met the unofficial Niuean High Commissioner in Australia, very nice man, like the Cook Islands, their affairs are run through NZ, not Australia, so unofficial.

Angus Taylor's idea of fitting immigration to how many houses we have - one immigrant per one house built, or some such nonsense - is daft.

Australia should bring in migrants only in the interests of Australia: not opening up to Third World unskilled people who add nothing to Australia except a bit of income tax, and who add to the burdens on our infrastructure and services.

What we have now is non-assimilating, parallel tribes who don't feel the need to speak understandable English, nor do anything much different from what they did where they came from. Worse, some of them are actually trying to change Australia to something the same as where they came from in the name of Allah. It's their duty!

What is good about Taylor's plan is the removal of certain welfare privileges from non-citizens. Tougher terms for gaining citizenship should also be on the agenda, with a total ban on Muslims, and the deportation of as many of them now here as possible. Unlawful? Pig's ribs. Parliament makes laws, not judges; particularly the sort that tells us that the law can change the scientific and biological facts that men cannot become women.

What is happening now is the undermining of our society - not by immigrants themselves who wouldn't be here without a treacherous political class, but by that political class itself. Liberal, Labor: they are both guilty. They gave up defending our civilisation and our inheritance decades ago, and we allowed them to do so by overlooking their lies and accepting their bribes.

The Australian political class is radically changing our country without our permission. The abominable Albanese budget is the latest proof that politicians rule us: they do not serve us. And they lie like pigs in shite.

Hi ttbn,
"Angus Taylor's idea of fitting immigration to how many houses we have - one immigrant per one house built, or some such nonsense - is daft."

I thought it was an attempt at trying to better manage the problem, but you're right it is a bit daft.

He's accommodating the immigrants but forgot about the Aussies.
If every new house is for an immigrant, what happens if some poor Aussie wants to move out of mum and dads place and get married make a family...

No sorry no housing stock for you!
This house is already taken.
Immigrants only!

As for the rest of your comment.
I understand some of you fears and frustrations.

Deport Muslims.
Theres a million of them now.
How are you going to put that toothpaste back in the tube.
Put a bounty on their heads?
$1000 per Muslim?

Should we put a symbol on all the Muslims doors at night and make them wear a badge and firstly lock them into ghettos, later we could consider work camps and maybe we could find some zyklon B, (to treat their typhoid of course)
Sounds like you have a plan.
A final solution maybe?

- Be careful that you don't become the exact same thing you claim to oppose...
Because then you'll stand for nothing and your opinions meaningless

You think 'ends justifies the means'
Just round em all up and send them back to whatever they came from, no refunds problem solved,
Before our country turns into England / Europe.

How bad is it where you are?

It is many years since I drove up Haldon St Lakemba
but the signs of change were there then.
If you want to see what is coming read this report from Europe;

https://tinyurl.com/4t4e3acj

Oh dear something went wrong there again

http://us.list-manage.com/QMrnNk8Mj0y?e=fb1080b608&c2id=7695d8445a33ce68feb603ec7612dafd

I think something went wrong with the Tinyurl
As far as I can see this is the original.

How bad is it where you are?
Armchair critic,
I'm in Australia & it's going downhill & at a stage where we need to have a referendum if this Nation should become Islamic or remain a Western Christian nation !
Europe has seen the error of its ways & the move is rapidly going momentum to reverse the trend. If people want to live under islam then let them do so in Islamic countries & the same goes for Western Christians. The continue as things are now will only result in a World of meaninglessness just as Wokeness has become but many times worse.

I think that Paul1405 is the one with dangerous ideas. I'm just a 'bad dog' for pointing it out.

Woke Marxist's would have us believe that they are peaceful and loving. Woke Marxist's seem to use the police and intelligence forces to fight a political proxy war against their political enemies. This gives them plausible deniability. It would be interesting to do some case studies of leftist's using lawfare and various other types of proxy warfare.

The claimed use of rubber bullets, kettling, and beatings against union members by union bosses such as 'Setka' during Covid is an example of this it seems. Of course the media reported it as a Nazi subversion to justify their friends actions.

I remember a police officer hip throwing a protester on his head on concrete for talking with his colleague. The Hong Kong protester that got a cement milkshake thrown in his face. The Woke throwing rocks at police. The Aboriginals trying to burn down Old Parliament House. The many missing statues and racist defacing of Anglo-Celtic monuments around Australia. The occupying of public space by Aboriginals and their Woke Marxist friends denying access to members of the public. Aboriginals threaten the perceived safety and community of many people around Australia through their actions.

Counter protests curbing the right of their political enemies to protest, Aboriginals occupying Australia Day and Anzac Day and Corporate Culture, ...

There are so many examples of political violence on the Woke Marxist side and their friends that it seems that Paul1405 can't be trusted.

Mao the famous Marxist is famous for saying that war is an extension of politics. They seem to like to create a perceptive dilemma to force the hands of the institutions- but in many cases they don't need their arms twisted much.

At some point if the government continually acts out against the public mandate the public will take things into their own hands- because the government has become a tyrant

All cultures need to protect their own identity, if nice methods don't work, they aren't going to lie down and die. But some will just demonize them as racist, and double down on the abuse.

Lets return to the original post:
We are invited to think about One Nation's immigration policy.
Clearly that policy includes the proposition that the idea us to
"deport illegal immigrants, they will housed in ‘removal centres’ in areas that voted for the Greens and open borders.
Here, very few people vote for the Greens, but there are oodles of Labor and Teal seats in which to detain Australia's illegals (70-100,000 of them) and the scum who don't share our values C. Tony Burke's electorate for starters."
There are two assumptions here. Teal and Labor voters do not necessarily support all the policies of their parties.
Secondly what are our so called shared values? The idea of shared values that are held by all is a myth - clearly judging by the comments to the post few share TBN's values on this issue.
It highlights a significant problem for One Nation - this idea of One Nation is an oxymoron. We might all identify as Australians but there are as many ideas of what it means to part of one nation as there are people in this country.

CM

All cultures should protect their identities, but here in Australia, people don't seem to have the “need” to do so. They elected a super-Socialist government that started trashing our culture immediately, then re-elected it three years later!

I believe that the 55.2% two party preferred election result in 2025 showed that not enough Australians were interested in protecting their culture or identity. While a large minority ‘might’ (who knows) value such things, it doesn't really matter after the vote ticks past the fifty percent mark.

Among the excuses for returning the worst government ever to power, was the one about the Coalition being Labor-lite, so let's stick with Labor.

Really? The Albanese government didn't need to be punished and have all the perks of government removed from it when no Coalition government, even the Turnbull one, has been worse than the Albanese effort?

And even Turnbull was better than Albanese when it came to our greatest threat, China.

I still put the blame for our current predicament : the wrecked economy, cost of living, mass immigration, degradation of our culture - the whole kit and caboodle - on Australian voters who do not value their culture, nor their democratic and Anglo Saxon heritage.

And I don't think that, when push comes to shove, that they will be able to bring themselves to give One Nation a real chance.

Holland, the country “that invented European tolerance” is cracking down on antagonistic cultures coming into their country, and cutting welfare to those already there - a la Angus Taylor.

Europe is carefully watching the developments in Holland. Australia should be too.

what are our so called shared values?
Baygon,
Very realistic question indeed ! My own observations show me that Australians share the values of most immigrants ! The only migrant group which does not want to share & is hell-bent on enforcing its doctrine onto all others are the followers of islam & they even force many of their own to comply. They're destroying societies & cultures whenever & wherever their numbers enable them to do so.
Do Australians want allow the same mayhem to play out here or not. A referendum is now well overdue.
There are some rules in Islam that are desperately needed in Western societies however, to allow the workings of Islam as at now is simply not an alternative for Australia !

Thanks ttbn- Yes to a point we are to blame for not seeing through the lies. But they also stop people from telling the truth. What about splitting Australia into parts and float away from those that want to destroy us?

The Declaration Of Independence seems to tell us what to do when confronted by a tyrannical government.

http://declaration.fas.harvard.edu/resources/text

Nietzsche and Ayn Rand have other solutions outlined in Thus Spake Zarathustra and Atlas Shrugged.

The Royal Commissioner into antisemitism has revealed an increase into online antisemitism and harassment of witnesses and members of the Jewish community.

A senior police officer has appeared before the Commission under a pseudonym to protect her.

The investigation into antisemitism is attracting more antisemitism and hatred.

Well done Australia.

Protect her from who?

The commander was questioned about a "poorly worded email" she sent, which appeared to tell officers patrolling a Hanukkah event that they did not need to stay for the entire duration. While testifying under her pseudonym to protect her identity, she fought back tears while explaining that her "expectation and intent was that police would be there for the duration".

Can we just stop importing immigrants into the country that require extra protection just to live here, why should they get a bigger chunk of taxpayer dollars devoted to their safety than anyone else?

Quiet simple really;
We are on the same list as Israelis !
It is just that we do not have as high a priority.
The list is well publicised Jews, Western Europeans,
Americans then all the rest.
Somewhere towards the end are Chinese, SE Asians and us.
Well Armchair, how does that grab you ?

Armchair critic,
Yes, Australia or rather Labor, should stop importing people posing as migrants & who cause the need to protect those who lived here for years before the incompatibles arrived.

Paul1405,
re your claims of sea level rise earlier in this thread; A new first-of-its-kind study by Dutch researchers finds no evidence of a global acceleration in sea level rise because of climate change.
The peer-reviewed paper, “A Global Perspective on Local Sea Level Changes,” published in the Journal of Marine Science and Engineering last month is the first study to be based on local data taken from coastal sites around the world, rather than on models based on extrapolations.
The study, which was conducted as an analysis of more than 200 tide-gauge stations worldwide, cuts against the long-standing belief among climate scientists that climate change is leading to rapidly accelerating sea level rise.
The research, conducted by Dutch researchers Hessel Voortman and Rob de Vos, found that the average rate of sea level rise in 2020 is only around 1.5 millimeters per year, or 15 centimeters per century.

Hi Indy,

Thanks for that, whether the inundation of Tuvalu by sea is the result of climate change, or some other unidentified phenomenon, regardless the outcome is the same, the disastrous lost of their homes and islands for the Tuvaluan's. The hope is the migration and resettlement of the Islanders, Australia has offered to do that in return for certain conditions. I'm sure you have at least enough humanity in you not to oppose that outcome. Hummmm?

Paul1405,
If the islands go under then of course they have to be taken in, goes without saying ! Where they can or want to go is a matter for all humanity. I think this would be a good opportunity for countries to rebuild. Considering that there will be other land masses to rise & sink in the vast ocean with unstable tectonic plates before long, the UN & similar outfits should be planning now where to resettle refugees due to natural upheaval. Perhaps natural disasters can bring human-caused disasters under control.
Natural disaster refugees must be helped whereas agenda driven fake refugees need to be managed.

Hi Indy,

Glad you have some compassion within you. 8,000 from a population of 10,000 registered to migrate to Australia. I'm sure the majority would prefer to stay where they are, but circumstance may prevent that.

Was pleased to see the Afghan Women Refugee Soccer Team (Afghan Women United) in Australia. They play without Taliban approval, those bastards ban women from participating in sport. About half the squad of 23 now reside in Australia, but compete internationally with FIFA approval. For those who chose Australia as their new home, it was not easy for them, things that we take for granted, like supermarket shopping was difficult, not understanding the language they didn't know how to shop. Its my opinion these women are welcomed here, and I'm sure they will have a better life than what the Taliban would give them in Afghanistan.

Paul1405,
Talk to some Lebanese how life was there before they let the Palestinian fanatics in. Lebanon was a thriving country referred to as the riviera of the Middle East.had a good friend who was Lebanese & I flew a lot with him. Great pilot, top bloke all round. used to work for a Lebanese bloke in Sydney many years ago. Again, great bloke. They're the right kind of immigrants, They don't run around Sydney holding up traffic etc. Got Sri Lankan friends, top people. Aboriginal & islander friends, all good. Could easily swap people from their culture & their mentality with some of the home-grown bogans from here !

One must not try to penalise those who would, quite legitimately, express an opinion.
Lawful opinions are valuable, even if they are at variance with our own.
I am sorry to say I think the concept of 'paying them back', in the way suggested, is absurdly immature.
I am sure no right-thinking government would give that idea any credence.

I also note that the IPCC has climbed down from its projections of
disastrous climate caused events.
They now say that those projections have no scientific foundations.
Looks like we may be back to the major ice age cycles.

Looks like the Albanians aren't too happy about Kushner and Jewish settlers.

Governments are such sellouts everywhere...
http://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/2063270798132121666

But the people have a different opinion of things
http://x.com/Partisangirl/status/2063011086526513620

I wouldn't want to mess with the Albanians.

The DIRTY SECRETS Behind Jared & Ivanka’s ILLEGAL Private Albanian Island!
http://youtu.be/Uan6a5ktDTc

Hi Indy,

Lebanon was subjected to bitter internal division following post war independence from France. Dominated by the Christian minority, the majority Muslim population was subjected to sever social and economic disadvantage. A civil war from 1975 to 1990 resulted in 150,000 deaths. The presence of an armed PLO in the country from 1970 onwards didn't help matters. The Palestinians were not the cause of the civil war, but they were participants.