I was very disappointed with my local ANZAC Day service, their was no 'Fairy Foss' machine, out of order, disgusting! AND, they turned off the 'Dodgem Cars' mid ride while they played the Lass Post, how disrespectful!
BUT, The Nazi bros were able to hold a torch light procession around the car park! That certainly brightened up the festivities.

There was a petition six years ago that claimed to stop wtc at Anzac Day services by RSLWA. It got 268 signatures. There is currently a petition to remove wtc from Anzac Day dawn services. It has over 200 signatures and a target of 100,000.

"mhaze you probably think that we lighter skinned people are like the Israelis and that the Indigenous are like the Palestinians, right?"

Wrong. As with most things you write. Although to tell the truth I've got no idea what you're talking about here, and I suspect that makes two of us.

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"You're in good company, a 24 year old Neo-Nazi Eli Toby has been charged by NSW Police after booing at Sydney's ANZAC"

Paul, you'll note (well not you but anyone with two brain-cells to rub together)...you'll note that I haven't supported or even talked about the booing. For the record, I think it was disgraceful. While the WTC is just woke rubbish, that doesn't justify booing at an ANZAC memorial or anywhere else for that matter. They do a WTC at every AFL game. My attitude is just to ignore it and attend to other matters while they get it out of their system.

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Re: polling....

"Key findings from the Dynata poll (May 2025):

* 56% agreed or strongly agreed that Welcome to Country ceremonies have become divisive (only 17% disagreed; 27% unsure).

* 49% said they should no longer be performed before sporting matches (30% wanted them to continue; 21% unsure).

*46% said they should no longer be performed at ANZAC Day ceremonies (34% wanted them to continue; 20% unsure).

* Among 18–24 year olds (often assumed to be more supportive): 48% agreed the ceremonies are divisive (more than double the 22% who disagreed). Views on sporting events and ANZAC were split more evenly in this age group."

"Where is your evidence for these "interminable wars" you claim took place"

Paul does this all the time. Just pretends there's no evidence for things he'd prefer weren't true.
We've had this discussion on aboriginal wars in the past, so I suggest Paul goes back and reads up on that. But knowing this is beyond his abilities I'll offer this from that previous thread....

"Blainey quotes:

After describing one battle where two men were killed he writes:

"Occasionally, there were pitched battles or raids in which many men took part. The causalities might not, at first sight, seem large; but the death of two men in a battle involving 40 meant the causalities were approaching the scale of the Battle of the Somme. An aboriginal fight could absorb a large proportion of adults within a radius of fifty mile - indeed could involve the a far higher proportion of able-bodied adults in any war of the 20th century could possible involve."

Then after a long discussion about all the evidence around deaths in aboriginal warfare he writes:

"If we go on to accept a very cautious estimate of the number of fighting deaths, we arrive at the conclusion that the annual death rate in warfare equalled 1 for every 270 in the population. That death rate was probably not exceeded in any nation of Europe during any of the last three centuries".

He also talks about how William Buckley, who spent time with, and fighting for, one native group and had previous fought in the Napoleonic Wars, was shocked at how brutal the aboriginal battles were compared to those against Napoleon.

These are all in the Chapter 7 "Birth and Death" of "Triumph of the Nomads"."

I'd also remind Paul of the time he tried to downplay the rate of warfare deaths among aboriginals by referring to a story of a few whites marooned in Moreton Bay where you were made to look the fool when you claimed it showed no deaths in war and I proved it showed the exact opposite.

With Mhaze's claim that aboriginal people never had anything resembling a custom remotely akin to welcome to country because they were all too busy killing each other, I dread to wonder what his explanation is for how so many combined celebrations/corroborees were held, how trade between far flung tribes was conducted, or what was the use of the amazing song lines. All of which probably didn't happen in Mhaze's state of intentional ignorance and racism.

Dynata poll, aka the Institute of Public Affairs, who are they you might ask, this Institute of Public Affairs. Th IPA is a far right pressure group that lobbies governments on various issues in the interests of their financial backers. What a surprise they so call Dynata polls always come up with results that favour the views of the Institute of Public Affairs.

Hi Trumpster,

"Occasionally, there were pitched battles" you said they were "interminable wars", INTERMINABLE: seemingly without end, a very long time. Were they daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, what? Did they last for a day, a week, a month, a year, how long? What evidence do you have of pitched battles taking place pre-1788. 2 deaths in 40, is not evidence of large scale battles! You could get that in the main street of Mount Druitt Sydney today.

The 'Aboriginal Battle of the Somme' on what date did it take place? I'm sure the Somme reference is for dramatic effect. The real Battle of the Somme (July 1–November 18, 1916) over 1 million casualties, total losses included roughly 420,000 British, 200,000 French, and 450,000–600,000 German soldiers. The first day alone saw 57,470 British casualties.

Yesterday was the 30th Anniversary of the Battle of Port Arthur involving 500 people with 35 dead and 23 wounded, obviously approaching the scale of the Battle of the Somme, wouldn't you say Trumpster.