It's a pity we have to have an ANZAC Day at all, it shows the failings of humanity. Since we do, and it should be a remembrance of ALL who died because of the futility of war, I believe it should be an inclusive gathering, and not another exercise in division furled by a minority of haters.

The RSL is reconsidering the "Welcome To Country", as its a day to remember the courage of the past, I hope the RSL shows the courage to stand up to the vocal minority of haters, and continues the remembrance as it is.

Hi AC,

"Maybe it's not about having support."

But that is the reason given for wtc/aoc. Everyone loves it apart from a few neonazis apparently. In light of this I think that the best way to deal with dissent is to have the odd poll or petition to show that there is popular support. I believe that there are petitions for and against it.

Hi Fester,

Well, I just looked at other issues.
Did Aussies collectively demand transgender toilets?
Are the majority trans? Of course not.

Women be like:
'I don't want some dude in a dress creeping around the ladies toilets trying to make small-talk'

The government does what it wants, the people being used to such things accept it because they can't do much about it, all they can do is jump up and down in opposition to try and roll it back.
But at that point to roll it back would be discrimination, right?
Just like they let all these immigrants in here, and if the people who were here first complain, then at that point complaining is racism.

Like I said I don't support anyone disrespecting or ruining ANZAC Day for others.
Even if I didn't care about it, it's still not my place to ruin it for others.
WTC has been pushed like a song on the radio they played to the point many are just sick of hearing it. And if the indigenous are taking the opportunity to use wtc as a platform to finger wave everyone and decisively remind us this is their country, and we took it from them, then I'm not sure this is the right message either.

Do Aussies, who come out to remember the fallen from their own families 100+ years after the event:

DO WE REALLY NEED TO BE WELCOMED TO OUR OWN COUNTRY 6 generations after the fact?

It's not a day out for tourists or immigrants.
It's family of the fallen, wearing their medals, generations later.

I don't wish to diminish indigenous standing or disrespect them or ANZACs in any way, but seriously, WTC should stay at the airport for when newbies arrive or maybe when gaining citizenship, they've turned this WTC/AOC into a religion, more acknowledgements that Muslims commit to daily prayers..

Is it welcome to country or an exercise in all being required to lay on the ground and pee our pants in collective guilt?

My Great-Grandfathers and their brothers were ANZACS, one of my Grandfathers married a part-indigenous girl after he came back from playing with the Japs, and I have a very small, completely non-noticeable bit of indigenous DNA in me, which probably dates back to around the time wombats and emus were invented in this country.

I don't need to be welcomed, I was born here just like 11 generations on my fathers side before me, and honestly I take some offense to it.
I don't need to acknowledge indigenous fought alongside ANZACS, I know they did and it's not a day for division, and that's what WTC seems to be making it.

I've got books and stories - records of my own indigenous family dating back to the Frontier Wars.

after the total humiliation that Albo and the grievance industry received from the voice referendum, you can be sure the tyrants would never put the wtc humiliation ritual to a vote. So sad so many of the Indigenous people are being used as useful idiots by the western hating ideologues.

http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/catalog/5020237

Gungarlook : the story of the Aboriginal Riley family of Burragorang Valley / Ivy Brookman & Jim Smith

AI Overview

>>Gungarlook: The Story of the Aboriginal Riley Family of Burragorang Valley (2010), by Ivy Brookman and Jim Smith, documents the history of the Gundungurra Riley family. It details their life on the Burnt Flat and Gungarlook properties, their early land ownership, and their persistent connection to the land despite displacement by the Warragamba Dam.

Key Aspects of the Riley Family Story:

Ancestry: The family descends from Dundowra (George Riley), a Gundungurra man, and his wife, Ellen Clayton.

Settlement: The family settled at Burnt Flat and later Gungarlook, an area in the upper Burragorang Valley featuring a significant waterhole from the Gurangatch dreaming story.

Land Ownership & Community: George Riley was a respected community leader and among the first Indigenous people in Australia to enrol to vote in 1869. The family managed an unbroken connection to their country, holding large community gatherings, including a major party at John Riley's selection at Burnt Flat in 1900.

Impact of Development: Many of the family's historic sites were submerged by the creation of Lake Burragorang (Warragamba Dam), impacting their ability to visit and maintain connections.

The Book: Published by Den Fenella Press, it features genealogy tables, maps, and photographs documenting the family’s history.

The Riley family continues to maintain a strong connection to their country today and has expressed strong opposition to further, potential destruction of their cultural heritage.<<

* My grandmothers birth is in the genealogy tables in the book.
It's some 90 pages, 21cm by 30cm and quite detailed.
- I think Indyvidual once said that he'd known the Rileys.