Let me say clearly right at the start.
I do not agree with the harming of another person, anywhere, at anytime, for any unlawful reason.
That is fundamental to the way I think.
That being said, I can still understand the frustration felt by those who attacked jewish persons.
They see what is being done overseas.
They see wholesale slaughter of persons, just because it is thought there are bad elements amongst them.
It is akin to killing everyone in Sydney, to eliminate crime gangs there.
Would that be considered unlawful, and raise a strident cry of 'foul'?
But the equivalent is being done overseas.
And no one is condemning the action.
No one is doing anything significant to stop the continuing slaughter.
Or bring perpetrators to book.
But 'tis an ill wind which blows no good.
Surely there is something which can be retrieved from the ashes of both disasters?
Surely now, thinking persons will consider the seriousness of these happenings?
And those amongst them who have influence will act to stop the killing?
Permanently!
Dear Donald did something useful, but he didn't do enough.
Albo needs to realise he lives in a world at war.
And see the need to make a stand.

"That being said, I can still understand the frustration felt by those who attacked jewish persons."

So you would understand people attacking Russian migrants because of the Ukraine war or because of the Holodomor? Even Poles for starting the second world war maybe?

If you think like that you have some hatred and a them and us mentality to deal with. You might also look at the history of Israel before you blame the Jews for the current conflict, like Albo and PenPen do.

“They brought it on themselves” has been used as a justification for violence against the Jews as old as antisemitism itself, stretching back through the “Christ killers”, “blood libel” and “well poisoners” of the Middle Ages to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in the 19th and early 20th century, to modern conspiracy theories about the “Jewish Lobby”. This ancient racist trope is constantly being rediscovered by antisemites in every time and culture who want to rationalise their prejudices.

Even if every allegation against Israel is true, that provides no excuse for shooting an innocent 10-year-old girl at a community celebration in Bondi. As Fester says, Australian Jews are no more responsible for Israel’s actions than Australians of Russian descent are responsible for Putin’s. That Jews are uniquely and repeatedly singled out for this collective guilt is one of the things that distinguished antisemitism from other forms of racism.

If doing nothing breeds evil then voting Labor has provided the proof !

"That Jews are uniquely and repeatedly singled out for this collective guilt is one of the things that distinguished antisemitism from other forms of racism."
- To be completely honest with you, seeing how the Israeli's have committed atrocities against the Palestinians, has made me less racist not more. Their actions are the ultimate form of racism, and I find it off-putting.

Zionism's socialist nationalism with imperialist expansion plans and master race beliefs is hardly any different to the Nazis National Socialism and it's imperialist expansion plans and master race beliefs
Did the NAZIS attack all their neighbours?
Did not the Israelis do the exact same thing attacking their neighbours?

Dear Ispo Fatso,

«I do not agree with the harming of another person, anywhere, at anytime, for any unlawful reason.»

So harming of another person lawfully is OK?

You can legislate whatever you like if you have a majority, and the German Nazis were meticulous in legislating all their atrocities, dotting all i's and crossing all t's to make their harming of others legal.

«I can still understand the frustration felt by those who attacked jewish persons.»

No you don't.

You may understand your own frustrations, but it is naive to project them on others and blindly assume that they were frustrated of the same... or even at all.

These specific murderers are believed to have been identifying with the Islamic State. ISIS killed, tortured and maimed everyone around them, including Muslims who disagreed with their extreme ideology. They also enslaved and raped every woman around, including Muslim women. How about, perhaps, their frustrations were of a sexual nature?

Or perhaps they were not frustrated at all but just enjoyed killing and making others suffer?
We know that there is a proportion of such kids in every school-yard.

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Dear Rhian,

«as old as antisemitism itself, stretching back through the “Christ killers”, “blood libel” and “well poisoners” of the Middle Ages to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in the 19th and early 20th century, to modern conspiracy theories about the “Jewish Lobby”.»

Such are just excuses: I believe that the true motive of classical anti-Semitism is the hatred of Christian clerical oppression, having robbed away the Europeans' original carefree pagan lifestyle, that along the fact that Christianity was imported from Judea.

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Dear Critic,

«Did the NAZIS attack all their neighbours?
Did not the Israelis do the exact same thing attacking their neighbours?»

Did the Sydney Jewish community attack all their neighbours?

Yuyutsu,
You should really read up on "attack" vs defence & retaliation !

Hi Yuyutsu,
"Did the Sydney Jewish community attack all their neighbours?"

Well, they are now.
why am I being attacked or at least in the firing line re Anti-Semitism because of my views?

Who invented this Anti-Semitism anyway?
What does it even mean?
One must never criticise Israel or religions?

- In the middle of the slaughter of hundreds thousand of innocent women and kids, where the perpetrator cries 'Amalek!' and Jews cheer on rape and wearing Palestimian womens undergarments and promote killing babies in the womb.

True fact.

'Remember, no criticising!'

The perpetrators had an ISIS flag you know.
Australians by and large aren't members of ISIS and nor am I.

Why is this somehow all my fault now?
"It's those damn people that criticise! Those vile Anti-Semites"
It's not like we haven't voiced our reservations about Islamic extremism, at risk of being called racist.

Somehow perpetrators waving ISIS flag conflate to Anti-Semitism?
Now I'm the worst kind of scum 'Anti-Semite' for criticising a country whose been filmed doing far worse than Bondi?

Where does Anti-Semitism begin and fair and reasonable criticism end?
And who decides what Anti-Semitism even is?
- The same Jews either committing or supporting Israel's atrocities and opposing and denying an ICJ decided genocide and crimes against humanity?
Those people?

I'm not waving the ISIS flag.
And Israel has committed tens of thousands of Bondi's.
Dozens of Bondi's almost every single day.

Dear Critic,

If you like to discuss anti-Semitism then say it and we may do so,
but first you need to take some medication for stopping this verbal diarrhoea.

To my best knowledge, the Sydney Jewish community never attacked any of their neighbours. Please correct me if I am wrong.

«why am I being attacked or at least in the firing line re Anti-Semitism because of my views?»

Oh, I am so sorry, I had no idea that you were there at the time in Bondi beach when the shooting happened. I do hope that you and your family are well.

I am sure, though, that it had nothing to do with your views but rather with your unfortunate being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Where does Anti-Semitism begin and fair and reasonable criticism end?
Armchair Critic,
Going by your posts I get the feeling that you're not really interested in solutions in favour of harmony ?
Correct me please if I'm wrong. Are you supporting a World caliphate or don't you ? A simple Yes or no would suffice.

"To my best knowledge, the Sydney Jewish community never attacked any of their neighbours. Please correct me if I am wrong."

- Not that I know of, but I don't live there.
I don't know what word on the street is.

"Oh, I am so sorry, I had no idea that you were there at the time in Bondi beach when the shooting happened. I do hope that you and your family are well."
- Yes now say that to the non-Jews families whose own people died at Bondi because Jewish people who are members of Chabad and raise and send money to the IDF to commit crimes against humanity, specifically Muslims want to flaunt being a 'Light upon the world' and publicly celebrate the conquest of Jerusalem against the Greeks and rededicate the Second Temple.

We are not Israel, we are not an apartheid state.
We have Muslim citizens and Israel has conducted who knows how many war crimes against them.
There are no rules for Israel it seems.

This country is acting like its been occupied by Jews.
'Let's go to foreign countries and wave the finger about how the populace should act and think, we can use atrocities to get these countries to make laws against their own citizens.

Australians by and large aren't members of ISIS
And it was wars for Israel by Western nations whose political class is owned by the Israel lobby against Israels perceived enemies, nations they wish to attack, nations who support Palestinians, that brought all this Islamic immigration.
So that when a European girl gets raped by Muslims, it was actually Netanyahu, and bought and paid for (or blackmailed by the likes of Epstein and Mossad) Western political class, that caused it.

If Jews act like that and flaunt it during a genocide then they place a target on their own backs and others around them.
That said I don't take sides with the innocent dead, I condemn what happened at Bondi, and I wish it never happened.

Hi Indy,
Stupid religious radicals can take their 1200 yr religious war back to where it came from. And after all the footage of IDF / IOF war crimes I've seen in 2 and a half years, they should be considered a terrorist organisation themselves and not be receiving funding to continue their ethnic cleaning and land theft, Jews and Christians provide money and support alike.

This is a secular country and I'm entitled to live free from ALL religious bs.

"Are you supporting a World caliphate or don't you ? A simple Yes or no would suffice."
- Absolutely not Indy, but I'm happy to largely see the end of power and control of the Israel lobby and Zionism, as well as the corrupt bought out leadership in Western countries involved in sanctions, overthrows and endless wars.

Just because I support the Palestinians having their own state and their own self-determination and recognise a right to resist oppression (this is a matter of human rights) But that doesn't mean I support Hamas which is Islamic resistance or an influx of Muslims that corrupts and destroys my own nations way of life for the average Western citizen.

Dear Critic,

«- Not that I know of, but I don't live there.
I don't know what word on the street is.»

So the bottom line is, that we have no reason whatsoever to believe that the Jewish community of Sydney attacked their neighbours.

You seem to have so much information (true or false) about the world, but none about that. You have not even come up with junkie weirdo social-media conspiracies about Sydney Jews attacking their neighbours.

Why? Because nothing of the sort ever happened.

"So the bottom line is, that we have no reason whatsoever to believe that the Jewish community of Sydney attacked their neighbours."

No, and I'm not going looking for one.

It's supposed to be anti-Semitic to criticise Judaism.
But I criticise all religions.

I'll criticise Chabad for supporting settlement building in breach of International law and supporting and sending money to IDF to commit atrocities and war crimes, and I don't particularly like ethnic enclaves, but beyond that they're Australians, but only as much as they're capable of putting their loyalties to our country over others.

In light of that, its divisive what they did publicly celebrating the reconquest of Jerusalem and re-dedication of the second temple, and proclaiming themselves to be a light upon the world when Israel is conducting an ongoing genocide / ethic cleansing / land theft campaign and wanting to build a third temple whilst putting their middle finger up to the rest of the word that looks on in disgust.

Not to defend the perpetrators, but I think on some small level they were asking for trouble.
And they put Australian's in harms way as well.
I'm not sure they should be holding religious festivals in public places, but maybe that's just my personal bias.
Christmas doesn't really count as a religious celebration.
You don't need to be religious and its really all about the kids opening presents and having a good time.

Jews don't roll the same way Muslims do.
The enraged Muslim will pick up a gun, machete or jump in a car and run people over.
Jews fight with lawyers and in government offices and changing legislation from positions of power.

Regards conspiracy theories, there's one doing the rounds, that it was a false flag Mossad operation, to re-establish Jews as victims and to start a war against Anti-Semitism.

Never let a good crisis go to waste,
And if there isn't a crisis, create one.

I don't know what is and isn't true here.
I'm just glad someone stopped the 2 idiots shooting people.

Dear Critic,

«It's supposed to be anti-Semitic to criticise Judaism.»

No, most of us have criticism about Judaism (or else we would follow it), but most of us do not act against Jews because of it.

«I'll criticise Chabad for supporting settlement building»

That is legitimate criticism.

«but beyond that they're Australians, but only as much as they're capable of putting their loyalties to our country over others.»

Australian or otherwise - even if they put their loyalties elsewhere, they still do not attack their neighbours.

«its divisive what they did publicly celebrating the reconquest of Jerusalem and re-dedication of the second temple»

Having a stupid celebration is one thing, violence is another.
No Sydney Jew took part in the reconquest of Jerusalem or the re-dedication of the second temple!

«and proclaiming themselves to be a light upon the world»

May be grotesque, but not dangerous.

«wanting to build a third temple whilst putting their middle finger up to the rest of the word»

The former they believe to be God's commandment, but those who do the latter do so of their own foolishness alone.

«on some small level they were asking for trouble.»

They just wanted to celebrate, but did so recklessly... like most teenagers...

«And they put Australian's in harms way as well.»

Tut tut, that was their Islamic attackers, not them.

«I'm not sure they should be holding religious festivals in public places»

I think that was a mistake given the situation, but then, most people make mistakes.

«Christmas doesn't really count as a religious celebration.»

Both Christmas and Hanukkah are religious for some and not for others.

«I'm just glad someone stopped the 2 idiots shooting people.»

Yes, a good-hearted Muslim man.

I'm not allowed to criticise anything or speak my true beliefs anymore like under the previous section 13C, under penalty of having my door kicked in, dragged away and prosecuted for my opinions, thanks to the Zionist mob Yuyutsu.
We're now an occupied country.
Have a good day.

Dear Critic,

Please take some fresh air and enjoy your life, there are so many better things to do!

Yuyutsu,
You forgot those Palestinians who attacked Israel !

Dear Indyvidual,

Very good, I sleep well without thinking of them all the time,
they haven't even appeared in my dreams... how about you?

One second though... have you just forgotten that there are no "Palestinians" in existence?

in existence?
Yuyutsu,
Not on paper anyway !

In existence but not on paper.
I have no idea of what your talking about and not interested either.
I am Australian and that is where my elegance lies.
Other immigrants that use Australia as a staging platform need to take their elegance overseas and forget where your safe place is.
It's absolutely disgusting to hear about what is happening in protesting etc, This is Australia far from any of things that happen in foreign lands.
AU is at war with no one. So rock the boat and you will see change big time.

The AFP reported today that the two, father & son went to the
Phillipines and mostly stayed in their rooms for two weeks.
I find that hard to believe.
I can think of one possibility;
They went there to use the internet so asio could not copy them.
Could they not have used NordVPN ? I understand that encrips the
ip address by using a remote server to route the traffic.
Hmmm,

DOING NOTHING BREEDS EVIL.

Define evil.
Then tell me who you're accusing of being engaged in it.

"That being said, I can still understand the frustration felt by those who attacked Jewish persons.
They see what is being done overseas."

Why does everyone pile on and attack another person just for an opinion?
I find that most curious.
"I do not agree with the harming of another person, anywhere, at anytime, for any unlawful reason.
That is fundamental to the way I think."

Ipso Fatso states he opposes harming others - what more do you want?
Do you question his honesty and intergrity?
Somehow those of you who turn a blind eye to Israels real actions, murdering people without care, you seem incapable of criticising Israel's actions, but the same people are quick to criticise Ipso Fatso simply for his NON-VIOLENT opinion.

Can anyone explain this?

What is this whole entire brainwashing thing?

That somehow Hamas, a group which on face value may have legitimate reasons to oppose occupation and oppression are 'terrorist organisation' and no-one would think to openly support them,

But in comparisn...

Somehow the nation we've all watched murder thousands of people without care, apartments buildings full of people destroyed EVERYWHERE, 3 Atomic bombs worth of munitions dropped on Gaza, one of the most populated places in the world and yet there's this brainwashing that we're wrong and 'anti-Semitic' if we don't support the perpetrator and their actions?

This whole entire thing is hypocritically twisted.

Anyone want to tell me that the hypocrisy doesn't exist, or explain why it does?

Can't you people smell the BS, just like Covid.
I did, maybe you people just can't.
Is it just bias, hatred and distrust of Muslims?

Some trained religious part of yourselves believes you must support Israel?
Or that you actually believe they're the victims when they're engaged in ethnic cleansing and land theft and leaders are wanted by International courts they are a racist nation you-know, who not only hate and wish to kill Arabs and Muslims, but enrage them and stoke any existing conflict.

Do you support being occupied by a foreign power ourselves kneeling to this nation or the 0.4% (130K) who are also Jewish Australians.

What next?

'God took it from the Australian indigenous and gave this land to us.'
That we're not Australian if we're not loyal to Israel?

You all know I have a war on stupid, right?
Well this whole entire thing is stupid.

What if I said 'I don't support Israels right to exist without them first defining their borders, it's a nation whose modern beginnings occurred through terrorism and war crimes, i.e. the bombing of the King David Hotel and years of blood soaked carnage and endless conflict since Jews born and immigrating from foreign countries proclaiming it's theirs.

It's like Australian indigenous making a land claim on Africa, saying this land belonged to them, and if you disagree you're anti-aboriginal.

What if I said the Israel's act in many ways similar to Adolf Hitlers Germany, that they do to others what was done to them?

Suddenly my speech is outlawed and I'm on a watchlist / hitlist of Zionist ememies, in a nation captured by Israel heading into an AI era
Are you people kidding me?

Why am I suddenly a worse person simply for holding opinions that have a basis of merit, valid arguments and comparisons, than say someone with a hate-filled religious mentality that is committing atrocities with a religious mindset.

And I don't mean Muslims I mean Israeli's in the IDF.

Why should I have to live in fear from a captured government, a terrorist nation and it's supporters.

Again, you all automatically think Muslims, but I think Israel and Zionists!
Where's my right to free political speech, why must I be targeted when I've committed no crime, only imagined ones where feelings might be hurt.
- Or Israels legitimacy.

'GAZA CAUSED BONDI !'
I swear I need to put that on a T-Shirt.

- There's your Royal bloody Commission!

It is all so simple, the Islamists believe a diety called Allah wants
them to conquer Israel and kill all Jews.
The Jews as a result think we must kill them instead.
The Islamists of various versions say it over and over again and take
steps to implement the instructions.
So what do you think ?