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Which is more divisive?

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'many of those people do not accept Western liberal democratic values, let alone Australian ones.'

Western liberal democratic values?
- like mass immigration?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 5:31:46 AM
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There was Bob (The Mad) Katter, blasting away with a megaphone covered with Nazi symbols.

"Neo-Nazis attack Indigenous protest site after anti-immigration rally in Melbourne as officer allegedly assaulted in Sydney'
At least 50 men, mostly clad in black, approached Camp Sovereignty as sun was setting on Sunday."

GY, there is ample evidence of neo-Nazis leading the riot in Melbourne, they were not on the outer edge, or bring up the rear or down a side street, they were in the forefront
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 5:50:14 AM
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CM

Good on you.

We need to keep stating our case and ignoring the idiots who think that personal attacks on us will shut us down. This is Online Opinion, not Reading And Responding To Online Morons. You know the two I'm referring to.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 8:45:43 AM
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Canem Malum,

That’s quite a leap. We started with a minister condemning far-right ethnocentrism, and you’ve turned it into a defence of Anglo-Celtic ethnocentrism, a Marxist conspiracy, and a rant about food safety laws.

Let’s not lose sight of the obvious: saying racism has “no place in modern Australia” isn’t an attack on Anglo-Celtics, it’s a defence of equal belonging. If you read it as a threat to “the people that created Australia,” that says more about your assumptions than about Anne Aly’s words.

“Anti-racism is racism” is just a rhetorical trick. By that logic, opposing sexism would be sexist, and opposing corruption would be corrupt. It collapses the very distinction between principle and prejudice.

And no, every culture doesn’t “need their own nation.” Multicultural democracies exist, function, and thrive all over the world. The fact that you can post screeds like this in public without consequence is itself proof that Australian democracy - built by many hands, not just Anglo-Celtics - is stronger than you give it credit for.
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ttbn,

It’s telling that instead of engaging with anything your opponents say actually said, your contribution is to pat CM on the back and call people names.

If the case for exclusion and ethnonationalism were as strong as you think, it ought to stand on arguments rather than applause lines.

Do you ever wonder why others don't have to call you names?
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 9:02:21 AM
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CM

I appreciate the chance to express my opinions. Others are entitled to express different opinions but, frankly, I am not interested in their opinions. I certainly no longer feel any need to take issue with them - it is pointless, made clear by a couple of posters who go hammer and tongs at each to no avail. When they get sick of arguing, they retire still holding the opinions they did at the beginning. They would be better of belting a tennis ball off a wall.

When I see these people's names, I scroll on past. I know exactly what their comments will be. Over my lifetime, which some people think has been too long, I have found that life is much better dealing with people who feel the same way as you do yourself. It's a pity that these aggressive posters in question can't find that sort of peace and certainty.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 10:35:15 AM
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ttbn.

Fair enough. I also get tired of those endless back-and-forths where people just bash away without listening, and nothing changes. I can see why you’d prefer to spend your time with people who see the world the same way.

Out of curiosity... did you use the wrong handle in your reply, or is "CM" a spirit you converse with?
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 11:18:58 AM
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