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The Forum > General Discussion > Will the Coalition reject net zero and give the voters an alternative to economic suicide?

Will the Coalition reject net zero and give the voters an alternative to economic suicide?

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They’re not some untapped climate solution,
John Daysh,
Very valid point however, the cutting down of trees & bush to make room for Alloy-concrete structures the production of which is one of the most polluting of all industries is no positive thing either.
Tell your investors to put their money towards real solutions to be found in the next few decades.
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 21 September 2025 7:46:41 AM
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Renewable Green Power reality !

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Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 21 September 2025 8:26:37 AM
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Indyvidual,

Yes, we absolutely should minimise unnecessary deforestation and prioritise siting renewables on rooftops, degraded land, and brownfields wherever possible - and was already do.

Let’s not pretend this is a zero-sum choice between trees or clean energy.

Fossil fuels are orders of magnitude more damaging than either solar panels or concrete. And if you're genuinely concerned about concrete emissions, I hope you're just as vocal about coal-fired power stations, which rely on it for both construction and ongoing maintenance - and pump out CO2 daily, unlike solar farms.

As for “real solutions in the next few decades” - we don’t have the luxury of waiting. The time to act is now, using the best tools we have. Trees help. So do solar panels. It’s not an either-or.
Posted by John Daysh, Sunday, 21 September 2025 8:27:32 AM
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G'day John,

Those like Indy, at their stage of life are content to kick the can down the road on this issue, put it in the unnecessary/too hard basket, and leave it all to those undeserving gran kids to deal with sometime in the future, they'll be dead, a sobering thought. Why not simply take the easy option of burning more fossil fuels to run the telly, and if its to costly then the government (taxpayer) can foot the bill and subsidise the selfish bastards to carry on their comfortable life style. What's a few storms and higher insurance costs, a bloody inconvenience that's what, but Indy and co can put up with that, with a bit more government dosh thrown in, and besides a few flooded coconuts in the Pacific, who cares, they're only coconuts, so what, it doesn't greatly affect them, so why worry. Anyway, its all the work of the Marxist/Communists/Seven Day Adventists/CWA women etc etc and of course etc. Do you agree?
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 21 September 2025 7:20:02 PM
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John Daysh,
Present level/stage of technology is futile as there's much more focus on procuring funding than procuring better technology. The funding wasted would very likely provide solutions if it weren't wasted on the hare-brained schemes of recent. The bell for failure was rung by the premature catch-cry "Net Zero". Net Zero is an impossible target which too many people took literally & the resulting mess has dampened their enthusiasm & faith in that field of Science.
Divert funding from Superannuation into research & progress will be made. Perpetuating the Status quo of wasting will prove nothing more than hindering progress. Scientists should disembark that bandwagon for their own good.

Paul1405,
If only you could put your efforts into solution finding instead of being silly you might find that your mentality could possibly improve.
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 23 September 2025 10:09:43 AM
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who cares, they're only coconuts, so what,
Paul1405,
Wind generators & solar panels produced with enormously polluting materials & processes will not stop land subsiding & subsea tectonic & volcanic activity. Because that's the only threat to islands anywhere not just in the South Sea.
People have moved to higher ground in the past & will do so in the future regardless of your & other dumbos' ideology. Just because you et al can't comprehend the natural changes of the planet & the destructive man-made changes can simply not be contained by hare-brained schemes doesn't mean that once people get a wet butt they won't move on. Pacific Islanders have proven over millennia that they have the sense to move on. Unlike educated engineers & bureaucrats who insist on building on flood plains & then scream when the water rises. Followed by more incessant bleating for more "funding" for more "studies" with never a positive result & the poor clueless that they forced to move there never being compensated for their losses caused by the stupidity of those engineers & bureaucrats.
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 25 September 2025 8:20:08 AM
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