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Will the Coalition reject net zero and give the voters an alternative to economic suicide?
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Posted by John Daysh, Saturday, 6 September 2025 5:15:26 PM
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This misrepresents both CSIRO’s transparency and the nature of GenCost.
//Why would the CSIRO be so coy about releasing details…?//
The GenCost report fully publishes its methodology, including fuel costs, capex, WACC, and capacity factors - with downloadable spreadsheets. Calling that "secrecy" just because it doesn’t come with a PR campaign is tinfoil-hat framing.
//Analogous to Hitler announcing Speer’s design…//
You invoked Hitler. Over GenCost. That alone signals you’re not debating in good faith.
//You initially falsely criticised Arche for using a hypothetical model…//
No, I said both Arche and CSIRO use idealised models for parity. The difference? Arche framed its scenario as a refutation of CSIRO, while CSIRO explicitly builds models for fair comparison (same project life, greenfield capex, etc.). You left that out.
//Why not model optimal coal dispatch?//
Because that’s not how the NEM works. Renewables get dispatch priority, displacing coal. GenCost models this reality - not your fantasy of 24/7 coal.
//Coal gets cheap after 30 years - coincidence?//
No. That’s true for all technologies. But GenCost uses 30 years as a standard cut-off to reflect real investor timelines.
//Fuel cost assumptions add 30-40% to LCOE…//
$4-8/GJ is a reasonable export-linked range. You cherry-pick the low end without acknowledging volatility or market risk. GenCost models new-build conditions, not nostalgia.
//CSIRO uses ranges for wind and solar but not coal…//
False. It uses consistent assumptions and ranges for all technologies.
//Coal is $300-$500 per person cheaper…//
That framing is populist sleight-of-hand. You ignore coal’s externalities - emissions, health costs - which GenCost does factor in. LCOE is not the only policy metric.
//Palmer’s proposal got knocked back…//
Exactly. Coal isn’t being suppressed, it’s being rejected by the market.
//Who pays for all that wasted energy?//
That’s called grid resilience. Every modern grid builds excess capacity. It’s not a "gotcha" - it’s basic design.
//Only six billion would die… That could be John Daysh answering.//
This is projection.
My posts are sourced and measured. Yours swing between sarcasm and doomsday. If you want to be taken seriously, try analysis - not Hitler analogies.