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Will the Coalition reject net zero and give the voters an alternative to economic suicide?

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Fester,

This misrepresents both CSIRO’s transparency and the nature of GenCost.

//Why would the CSIRO be so coy about releasing details…?//

The GenCost report fully publishes its methodology, including fuel costs, capex, WACC, and capacity factors - with downloadable spreadsheets. Calling that "secrecy" just because it doesn’t come with a PR campaign is tinfoil-hat framing.

//Analogous to Hitler announcing Speer’s design…//

You invoked Hitler. Over GenCost. That alone signals you’re not debating in good faith.

//You initially falsely criticised Arche for using a hypothetical model…//

No, I said both Arche and CSIRO use idealised models for parity. The difference? Arche framed its scenario as a refutation of CSIRO, while CSIRO explicitly builds models for fair comparison (same project life, greenfield capex, etc.). You left that out.

//Why not model optimal coal dispatch?//

Because that’s not how the NEM works. Renewables get dispatch priority, displacing coal. GenCost models this reality - not your fantasy of 24/7 coal.

//Coal gets cheap after 30 years - coincidence?//

No. That’s true for all technologies. But GenCost uses 30 years as a standard cut-off to reflect real investor timelines.

//Fuel cost assumptions add 30-40% to LCOE…//

$4-8/GJ is a reasonable export-linked range. You cherry-pick the low end without acknowledging volatility or market risk. GenCost models new-build conditions, not nostalgia.

//CSIRO uses ranges for wind and solar but not coal…//

False. It uses consistent assumptions and ranges for all technologies.

//Coal is $300-$500 per person cheaper…//

That framing is populist sleight-of-hand. You ignore coal’s externalities - emissions, health costs - which GenCost does factor in. LCOE is not the only policy metric.

//Palmer’s proposal got knocked back…//

Exactly. Coal isn’t being suppressed, it’s being rejected by the market.

//Who pays for all that wasted energy?//

That’s called grid resilience. Every modern grid builds excess capacity. It’s not a "gotcha" - it’s basic design.

//Only six billion would die… That could be John Daysh answering.//

This is projection.

My posts are sourced and measured. Yours swing between sarcasm and doomsday. If you want to be taken seriously, try analysis - not Hitler analogies.
Posted by John Daysh, Saturday, 6 September 2025 5:15:26 PM
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