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Should Australia Recognise Palestine?

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Perhaps a smidge off topic, but the way I see Palestine is this:

There appears to be a terrorist group amongst the people.
Incredibly, the current approach seems to be to kill off a hundred of the population, because one of them is, or might be, a terrorist.
Very unfair for the innocent ninety nine you might think?
Yes, but this is war, and they are just collateral damage.
They are of no consequence.
Or, so say those who are inflicting these atrocities.
This is clearly the punishing of the many because of the alleged misconduct of the few.
I cannot see this as acceptable.

There are those who are trying to ease pressure on an increasingly catastrophic cross border conflict.
They are attempting, somehow, to guide the aggressors away from ideas which make death and destruction a certainty.
The latter circumstance has resulted in families being deprived of food and medical care.
My heart goes out to all those children who are caught up in this crisis.
And the agony of being the parents at such a time is almost unthinkable.
It is not enough for us to sit on the sidelines, and rabbit on about terrorists.
And likewise to avoid doing anything which might lead towards an easing of this terrible situation.
To favour no change is wrong. And even worse. It is a disgraceful.
At least there are those who are contemplating change.
People who are at least trying to do something constructive.

I think our federal opposition lacks credence with its approach.
What it advocates doesn't do anything to alleviate any of the suffering.
It espouses making no change, even when change of some kind is needed.
Its focus seems to be on theoretical long term goals.
Long term goals be damned!
What is needed is help for those families right now.
You cannot fill empty stomachs with words.
And intentions will not fix broken bones.
It is time for good men to step up, and make the changes which are needed.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 3:19:55 AM
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Indy,

The Aboriginal people were happy and successful for 60,000 years prior to the 1788 British invasion. People like you with your smug superiority complex, can't understand that people who haven't been Westernized could possibly be contented with their lives. Your mob murdered more than 10,000 Aboriginal people in 400 plus massacres that took place during colonial and post colonial times. Not to mention the untold number who died from introduced diseases, starvation and dispossession. Today Aboriginal people are still disadvantaged in modern Australian society, report after report tells you that fact. As Professor Marcia Langton once said; "The remarkable thing about Aboriginal people is that we are still here at all." I agree.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 6:01:27 AM
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IF, well said and totally agree. What the Zionist Nazis are doing is applying the principle of "collective guilt", among other reasons for the extermination of the Palestinian people. Just as the Hitler regime applied the principle of "collective guilt" to the Jews for the defeat of Germany in WWI, he didn't believe all Jews were responsible, but they all shared in the guilt, the Netanyahu regime is doing the same in Gaza. There are other complex factors at play as well, but collective guilt is certainly one factor.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 6:18:08 AM
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Paul1405,
I Did ask for comments of true Indigenous !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 8:57:44 AM
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The Aboriginal people were happy and successful for 60,000 years prior to the 1788 British invasion.
Paul1405,
Yeah, really ? Is that why all their legends & stories are nearly always about killing or getting killed ? Their miserable existence is not seemingly desired in any of the requests from modern Australians regarding housing & commodities.
You're literally peddling lies about their past. Could it be because you're not in any way connected to them apart from some dodgy claims of Aboriginality ? Photos from the very earliest days pf photography don't show all that many pictures of this happy & successful life you're waffling on about. Yes, the were the fortunate ones who happened to roam in the areas of plenty but the majority were constantly hiding or defending themselves in their quest for food.
So, stop trying to invent a past that never was !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 12:17:23 PM
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Again, I think I am a smidge off topic.
But sometimes an opinion must be expressed.

Let us face the facts of life.
All of us who live here are Australians.
We live in a democratically run country.
We have a properly elected government
It is this government, and its subsidiaries, which has exclusive control.
It is this government which makes the rules by which we live.
Anyone trying to give separate privilege a particular race is being absurd.
Anyone trying to divide the country along racist lines is doing us a disservice.
All of us are born with a clean slate.
We all have the responsibility to obey the law, and to accept the norms of our society.
Which means we all need to adopt a similar style of dress.
(allowing for the fads of fashion, for we are humans after all)
Those who say otherwise are divisive.
They are trying to split our society.
They should be condemned?
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 1:01:57 PM
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