Wow Paul. Some people makes leaps of logic. You make monumental strides of illogic.

I didn't talk of collective guilt. If you can't address my actual points clearly you feel the need to create out of thin air made-up views and then tell me they're wrong.

Let's try this. We'll pick your beloved Russians. When they invaded Germany in 1945 they killed around 1 million people and committed around 2 million rapes. Were all those people giulty or would you call it a war crime? Some of those killed were kids.

The thing is its war. The Paelstinians caused the war. The Palestinians are therefore responsible for the war and the deaths. If they wanted to stop the war and the deaths they could do so tomorrow. But you never acknowledge that. You just demand that the side you hate be castigated for fighting a war that was forced on them.

"Several posters on this forum have run rings around you in a number of discussions"

Well not you obviously but I look forward to you giving some examples. People just saying things you want to be true isn't the same thing as winning arguments. But I take it from you response that the idea of reading to get the facts is off the table as far as you're concerned.

"BTW, you never could explain how a 145% tariff on Chinese goods was going to benefit America, or American tariffs on Australian good, would benefit Australia."

There never were 145% tariffs. That was just a threat to make the Chinese sit up and take notice. It worked. And who said the US tariffs would help Australia? It seems you've missed quite a bit here.

Trumpster,

When they (Russians) invaded Germany in 1945 they killed around 1 million people and committed around 2 million rapes. Were all those people giulty or would you call it a war crime? They were defiantly not giulty, no it was a war crime, all wars are a crime in my opinion. Applying your logic; The Germans were responsible for the war, so would say the Russians, and therefore the deaths, including their own."

From you, The Palestinians are therefore responsible for the war and the deaths. does that include a day old child?

AC and JD, both have run rings around YOU. Modesty, so I'll exclude myself.

For even you the stupidly of Donald must astound you. Maybe not, you are about as bright as he is. IQ of both TLA.