There has been much made recently about Jillian Segal's controversial recommendations on antisemitism.

For those who don't know she is Australia’s Antisemitism Envoy.

She has for example in a report of 49 proposed changes suggested stripping universities, broadcasters like the ABC and arts groups of funding for failing to combat rising hate speech and violence against Jews in Australia.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/plan-to-combat-antisemitism-handed-to-anthony-albanese/awu1ocoow

Figures show that from October 2023 to September 2024 antisemitic incidents surged in Australia by 316 per cent, with over 2000 cases reported including threats, assaults, vandalism and intimidation.

However some have said the changes go to far and are very Donald Trump in nature.

Liberal MP James Stevens for example says Australia shouldn't legislate a definition of antisemitism or impose penalties for people breaching it and another group Labor Friends for Palestine has voiced concerns over implementation of some of the recommendations saying they are an overreach.

My view is that antisemitism attacks the foundation of places like Australia and such activity should be condemned at every level. I believe we must take affirmative action to see it disappear - including doing things some won't like - very much for the better good.

Is dealing with Jew-hatred really “controversial” ?

The sickness affects everyone, not just Jews. It is an attack “on fundamental principles of the rule of law that underpin Australian democracy”.

(https://ruleoflawaustralia.com.au/commentary/anti-semitism-just-part-of-much-wider-sickness/)

If people cannot be protected just because they are Jews, no Australians can be protected.

“We all have a stake in Segal's plan”. (See above)

Most people won't be aware that under the Australian ‘Crimes Amendment (Inciting Racial Hatred) Act in NSW’ contains an exemption for hate speech based on religious belief.

A Rule of Law Institute survey has revealed that only 47% of respondents think that our legal system treats everyone equally.

After the latest Jew-hate rampage (now regular events), only 40% believed that all people were treated equally regardless of their backgrounds.

The Institute believes that Jew-hatred is “an attack on the principles of the rule of law and is therefore an attack that threatens all of us”.

The vacuum created by a political class unwilling to protect the rights of everyone is being filled by extremists among immigrants and locals alike.

Ms. Segal's plans go “beyond protecting a single community” to upholding values of equity and mutual respect”.

The “some” who might, or might not, (no evidence) have said the changes go too far, and drag Donald Trump into it, have to be regarded as Trump Syndrome boofheads, and most likely anti-Jews themselves.

Australia is already regarded globally as a country not safe for Jews. If something is not done, pretty damn quickly, we will be catching up with Britain, where in the last couple of days, the government has been shocked by a report showing that Jew-hatred has become ‘normalised’ in that country.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/nsw-man-charged-over-melbourne-synagogue-arson-attack/ezra2p27p
Why doesn't Tony Burke send these troublemakers to Palestine ? He calls for "something" to be done, well, he's in the driver's seat for that !

Anti-Semitism (like pornography) is one of those things that grow when you talk about it.
Praise it or condemn it, it doesn't matter: either way interest is aroused and the effect is the same.
It is like a wound you keep scratching: stay quiet, do nothing and it will go by itself.
But politicians LIKE to talk about it.

No fair minded person condones attacks on people, places of worship, child care centres, schools, businesses, homes, cars or MP's officers etc. Those found guilty of such offences deserve punishment under the law. There does seem to be a trend whereby genuine protest, and opposition to what is taking place in Gaza is now be labeled as antisemitism, that is also a dangerous trend in an open democracy like Australia.

The average Ocker/Ockerina is interested only in getting a skin full of grog, free stuff from the government, and being entertained by others playing silly games.

This year's election, with lots of seats for Albanese despite his obvious unsuitability for the job, indicates a similarity with 1930s Germans.

The Germans were happy with the authoritarian Kaiser. The Weimar Republic really miffed them, because it meant that they were expected to take part in politics: actually choose a party.

Their attitude to politics made it easy for them. As long as the National Socialists took responsibility, made the decisions, did their thinking for them, all was good.

Australians seem to have done the same thing with the Albanese Socialists.

It's a worry, how now, the same anti- Semitism, hatred of Jews, that arose in Germany, has been added to all the other indicators that we are going down the 1930s path.

https://youtu.be/Q9ZWyvK5Fqc?si=7YzGSs9qjKYUvBli

Netanyahu reminds us that it wasn't Hitler’s idea to exterminate Jews in the first place.

I think 'antisemitic' is just a made up racist word.
And I don't mean that it infers racism towards Jews.
I think it infers racism by Jews, in that they enjoy a non-criticism privilege than no-one else does, and that makes it racist.

When it comes to fair and reasonable criticism, I don't they should enjoy any rights above anyone else.

Is the truth antisemitic?

Proof - Much worse than the NAZI's themselves
http://youtu.be/BGL8ZCd9Tao

Is satire antisemitic?

The chosen ones are fleeing the 'promised land' and go home all over the world!
http://youtu.be/KcW3eOaivLA

ttbn, has a Nazi apologist and war criminal in Netanyahu trying to shift the blame for the extermination of 6 million people onto the Palestinians, not all were Jews there were others. While the majority of victims of the Holocaust were Jews, many other minority groups were targeted as well. Jehovah’s Witnesses, Romanies (Gypsies), homosexuals, Slaves, people with disabilities, and others were imprisoned in concentration camps and killed during the Holocaust.

No matter how ttbn twists it, the Zionist regime is responsible for the murder of 58,000 people in Gaza, including 18,000 children.

"No matter how ttbn twists it, the Zionist regime is responsible for the murder of 58,000 people in Gaza, including 18,000 children."

This low number only indicates 'recovered' doesn't include bodies under the rubble of apartment buildings.
And I've seen dead Palestinians being eaten by cats and dogs.
Other figures state 400K though that number is disputed.

I agree AC,

58,000 is the actual number of recovered dead, there is most certainly thousands more unaccounted for. The Nazi's Warsaw Ghetto housed 460,000 at it height. The Zionist Nazi's are planning an even bigger Gaza Ghetto to accommodate 600,000 Palestinians, eventually the entire Palestinian population will be confined there, as many as 2 million, men, women and children. The plan is for relocation and/or extermination. All this was approved by the convicted criminal Trump last week at a meeting in Washington with the accused war criminal Netanyahu.

Armchair Critic,
Nothing antisemitic specifically, it's a general hatred of anything not Islamic. But the tide has already begun to turn against it World-wide. Sadly, there'll be much misery & suffering before the idiocy can be sorted.

As a principle I support free speech; even, as George Brandis once (in)famously said, the “right to be a bigot”.

But to its credit, most of the recommendations in the Segal report are about education and information, not coercion or limiting free speech. It tries to address the causes of antisemitism rather than penalising its perpetrators. For example, it highlights the lack of historical knowledge of antisemitism and the Holocaust that is linked to the fact younger people are more likely than older ones to be antisemitic.

Its most controversial recommendations are for public funds to be cut from arts organisations, media and universities that foster or fail to combat racism. That will have to be handled very carefully, but in principle is a good think and distinguishes between things that should be prohibited, and things that should not be seen to be officially sanctioned and taxpayer funded. Artist Khaled Sabsabi has the right to produce works that mock 9/11 and glorify Islamofascist terrorists; but I don’t want him celebrated by Creative Australia with a junket to the Venice Biennale at taxpayers’ expense.

http://www.aseca.gov.au/sites/default/files/2025-07/2025-aseca-plan.pdf

Antisemitism differs from run-of-the-mill racial and religious prejudice in the complex relationship between legitimate criticism of the policies and actions of the Israeli Government, and hostility to Jews and Israelis in general. The Australian government has adopted the IHRA definition of antisemitism, whose guidelines address this issue, and the Segal report recommends this be used across all levels of government and public institutions to inform their practical understanding of antisemitism. Many Governments and public bodies around the world use this definition, though it is unpopular with some on the far left who argue – wrongly in my view - that it is used to misrepresent legitimate criticism of Israel as antisemitic.

http://holocaustremembrance.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/IHRA-non-legally-binding-working-definition-of-antisemitism-1.pdf

Hi Rhian

"Its most controversial recommendations are for public funds to be cut from arts organisations, media and universities that foster or fail to combat racism."

I can only speak of my days at Sydney Uni, where assorts of radicals and weirdos were rampant. The daily gatherings on the lawn of raving crackpots often spruiking utter nonsense to their legions of disciples. For me it was all part of free speech, and a richness of life, even if it was often crazy speak. How could the University control the ranter and the ravers, I don't know.

BTW I'm sure many of those crazies went on to become doctors and lawyers and such, dressing in suits and reading the Sydney Morning Herald, before departing for the office as part of their very conservative life.

"has a Nazi apologist and war criminal in Netanyahu trying to shift the blame for the extermination of 6 million people onto the Palestinians, not all were Jews there were others. "

In my constant efforts to bring a little historic accuracy to the rubbish Paul writes.... its estimated there were around 11 million victims of the Holocaust of which 6 million were Jews. The rest were Romani, the disabled, dissidents but primarily Russian POWs. So yes, 6 million Jews were exterminated.

What Netanyahu says is partly right. Hitler didn't originally intend to kill the Jews. He wanted them out of Europe and his main idea was to move them to Madagascar which he hoped to obtain as part of a peace deal with Britain. It was only after the chances of such a deal fell through that he and his subordinates moved to plan B - mass murder.

I've explained this to Paul in the past.

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"Its most controversial recommendations are for public funds to be cut from arts organisations, media and universities that foster or fail to combat racism."

Public funds should be cut from arts organisations and the media for all sorts of reasons. But fostering racism isn't one of them.

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Censorship is never right, always wrong. All it does is drive the unwanted views underground where they can fester and metastasize. Keep them in the open where they can be challenged and exposed. The best disinfectant is sunlight.

The massive rise in antisemitism is an indictment on multiculturalism. Unwanted prejudices from the old world are bought to Australia and, rather than they assimilating to our views, a portion of us assimilate to their racist views. Additionally, because the new arrivals form a voting clique, some politicians feel the need to pander to that clique meaning that the establishment cannot form a united front against thinking that is ripping the nation asunder

Trumpster,

I never said the total number of people exterminated by the Nazi's in concentration camps was 6 million. Most reference 6 million as the number of Jews exterminated by the Nazi's, although the actual figure is unknown. How many others were murdered, estimates vary widely. There is this claim by the war criminal Netanyahu that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Mohammed Amin al-Husseini was complicit in the murder of millions of Jews. No one other than the Trumpster himself who regularly channels his folk hero Hitler can give a definitive answer to this did he, or did he not question. Despite the answer, there is no excuse for the Zionist murder and genocide of innocent Palestinians in Gaze. Although I'm sure the Trumpster sees it differently.

Hi Paul

I have absolutely no objection to student protests against Israel on campus, so long as they comply with the law and the university’s rules e.g. on not disrupting the everyday business of education. But there is widespread evidence of threats and intimidation directed at Jewish students and staff, discrimination against Jewish academics, and active support for terrorism on campuses. These are usually against the university’s policies, but in many cases universities have failed to implement those policies – most notably your alma mater.

http://www.sydney.edu.au/content/dam/corporate/documents/news-opinions/2024/external-review-bruce-hodgkinson-report-29112024.pdf

" Netanyahu trying to shift the blame for the extermination of 6 million people"

then

"I never said the total number of people exterminated by the Nazi's in concentration camps was 6 million."

?!?!?!

"there is no excuse for the Zionist murder and genocide of innocent Palestinians in Gaze. Although I'm sure the Trumpster sees it differently."

Yep. There is no genocide and they aren't innocent

Trumpster,

Since when have children as young as a few days old been "terrorists" and therefore guilty and deserving of extermination? According to you; "they aren't innocent", therefore they must be guilty, 18,000 murdered Palestinian children's bodies recovered so far.

Are you of the opinion that the accused war criminal Netanyahu is saying Mohammed Amin al-Husseini didn't just influence Hitler to exterminate 6 million Jews (the figure usually quoted) but also influenced Hitler to murder millions on non-Jews as well, possibly another 5 million. You claim to know so much about Hitlers thinking. Next time you are channeling the Fuhrer, could you ask him the question. BTW, with all your inner knowledge of Hitlers thinking, were you part of the Fuhrer's inner circle at some stage? Are you the reincarnation of Hermann Goering by any chance?

Paul,

The Palestinian people aren't innocent. They caused this war and continue to fight it. Children die in war. Its in their hands to stop that.

"You claim to know so much about Hitlers thinking. "

No. I just read what he wrote, what was written about his plans by his subordinates, and what official German government policy was at the time. Reading about the facts....you should try it sometime.

Trumpster,

The crime of collective guilt. According to you, "The Palestinian people aren't innocent. They caused this war and continue to fight it" Even the babies! Amazing, what perverted thinking is that. Hitler believed the Jews were responsible for Germany's defeat in WWI, somewhere in the order of 3 million Germans died as a result of that war. So, do you believe as Hitler did, the Jews were responsible for the needless loss of all those Germans, and as a collective punishment of the guilty he exterminated 6 million. That seems to fit with your perverted way of thinking.

Most of your claimed "knowledge" is BS you make up, or get by a quick search on Google. Several posters on this forum have run rings around you in a number of discussions, showing you to be somewhat clueless, just like your folk hero Donald.

BTW, you never could explain how a 145% tariff on Chinese goods was going to benefit America, or American tariffs on Australian good, would benefit Australia.

The Albanese government insists that it cannot consider recommendations by the person they appointed to report on anti-Semitism until they receive a report on Islamophobia.

This is absurd and shameful, described as a “fig leaf” to cover Albanese's intent to continue doing nothing about attacks on Jews. He will be scratching to find any report of attacks on Muslims by Jews or anyone else.

There’s no comparable epidemic of attacks on Islamic schools, mosques, or businesses in Australia.

Jillian Segal should probably divorce herself from the charade that tricks people into thinking that the Albanese government cares about Jews.

Wow Paul. Some people makes leaps of logic. You make monumental strides of illogic.

I didn't talk of collective guilt. If you can't address my actual points clearly you feel the need to create out of thin air made-up views and then tell me they're wrong.

Let's try this. We'll pick your beloved Russians. When they invaded Germany in 1945 they killed around 1 million people and committed around 2 million rapes. Were all those people giulty or would you call it a war crime? Some of those killed were kids.

The thing is its war. The Paelstinians caused the war. The Palestinians are therefore responsible for the war and the deaths. If they wanted to stop the war and the deaths they could do so tomorrow. But you never acknowledge that. You just demand that the side you hate be castigated for fighting a war that was forced on them.

"Several posters on this forum have run rings around you in a number of discussions"

Well not you obviously but I look forward to you giving some examples. People just saying things you want to be true isn't the same thing as winning arguments. But I take it from you response that the idea of reading to get the facts is off the table as far as you're concerned.

"BTW, you never could explain how a 145% tariff on Chinese goods was going to benefit America, or American tariffs on Australian good, would benefit Australia."

There never were 145% tariffs. That was just a threat to make the Chinese sit up and take notice. It worked. And who said the US tariffs would help Australia? It seems you've missed quite a bit here.

Trumpster,

When they (Russians) invaded Germany in 1945 they killed around 1 million people and committed around 2 million rapes. Were all those people giulty or would you call it a war crime? They were defiantly not giulty, no it was a war crime, all wars are a crime in my opinion. Applying your logic; The Germans were responsible for the war, so would say the Russians, and therefore the deaths, including their own."

From you, The Palestinians are therefore responsible for the war and the deaths. does that include a day old child?

AC and JD, both have run rings around YOU. Modesty, so I'll exclude myself.

For even you the stupidly of Donald must astound you. Maybe not, you are about as bright as he is. IQ of both TLA.

You're missing one fact.
Under international law occupied people have every right afforded them to fight their oppressors, and since Oct. 7 was actually a raid on miltary barracks, then they moved north towards a second military barracks and were intercepted around the music festival area, also there were Islamic resistance groups committing atrocities, n also the IDF under killed many Israelis under the Hannibal doctrine.

So firsty the war didnt start Oct. 7. It was going on 70+ years before that called Nakba, beyond that Palestine was under occupation, Gaza was under blockade and Israel was actively stealing land and bulldozing homes continuing their oppression, and Oct. 7 prevented normalisation of Israeli ties with Saudi Arabia that would've put an end to a Palestinian State, Israel also funded Hamas under Netanyahu (And probably allowed Oct. 7 to happen anyway, because he needs war to stay out of prison and taking over Gaza was a long held goal) Israel funded Hamas to keep them and Fatah divided, prevent unification and to undermine a future Palestinian State.

And FYI China won the trade war.

"you are about as bright as he [Trump] is. "

I don't think you understand what a compliment that is.

"And FYI China won the trade war."

Well, given that the trade war, if it indeed does break out, is far from over, that's a rather fatuous call.

But AC is renowned for claim victory for his favoured side before the victory is won, and then running and hiding when it fails to eventuate. Remember when Odessa was going to fall to Russian troops with a week or two? That was two years ago and they are no closer to it. Remember when Russian forces were going to achieve a massive breakout following the fall of Bakhmut? That never happened. etc etc

Antisemitism has risen by 300% since 7 October 2023 when Israeli citizens were slaughtered, unprovoked, by antisemites/Jew haters.

Australia adopted the ‘International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’ definition of antisemitism in 2021; but obviously the adoption of a definition doesn't mean any action will be taken in Australia. Almost four years later, and the Albanese government is still displaying Australia as an unsafe place for Australian Jews in their own country.

Why, at such an advanced stage, do people still call it antisemitism ? I've watched God knows how many protest videos in which the less constrained activists jumped the gun & openly declared it an assault all non islamics. They quite clearly stated that they won't stop until the whole World is Muslim.
What is presently called antisemitism is in fact anti-White. They're only just now starting to see that in England & several other European countries.
Here, it'll still be some time but it is in the developing stages.

Constitutional lawyer Professor David Flint advises that the underlying level of antisemitism is the “direct result of politicians negligently or callously ignoring a clear constitutional mandate” that immigration must be exercised for the ‘peace’, ‘order’ and ‘good government’ of the Commonwealth.

The most serious breach occurred when the Albanese government did what “no Arab government dared to do” - bring into Australia Gazans who would have had be on good terms with Hamas terrorists to obtain permission to leave Gaza.

There was no way that the Albanese government could have determined whether or not the 3,000 of them were Jew-haters or terrorists. Jordan and Egypt flatly refused to take them in.

The Albanese government’s action was grossly negligent.

Jew-hater, 'Gaza Gran' who had her visa cancelled, and was locked up in the detention centre - presumably waiting for deportation - has been released back into the community by the erratic, lunatic Albanese government.

"Oct. 7 was actually a raid on miltary barracks, then they moved north towards a second military barracks and were intercepted around the music festival area, also there were Islamic resistance groups committing atrocities, n also the IDF under killed many Israelis under the Hannibal doctrine."

Again AC falls for rubbish from his click-bait sources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPzIRijp9Jo

The above link is the clearest explanation yet about this whole circus !

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1256317206135162&rdid=ksHemPCnqu3yGjSS

Some idiots still don't get it !

Mhaze,
Where do you think the Golani brigade woman were attacked on Oct 7 in their bareacks, and intelligence was taken, and if u want to know about the Hannibal doctrine go read some times of Israel articles, also there were hundreds of burned out cars at the music festival, that was done by AH-64 Apache gunships, I suppose you think it was Palestinians flying them, not to mention tanks killing Israeli citizens in kibbutz and stories of mass rapes beheadings and babies in ovens all proven lies.
As for Russia, US handed the war over to Europe and demanded they rob their own citizens for 5% GDP to pay for it, even after cutting off access to cheap Russian gas. The West is doing evrything possible to freeze the conflict. Putin says war objectives come first, peace negotiation come second.
Then they tried to take out the Iranian leadership, failed, and now the US is focused on China, made all sorts of tariffs threats but backed down.
The proposed secondays sanctions against those buying Russian oil will hurt US consumers and the US economy more than it will hurt those countries just as EU sanctions against Russia hurt EU consumers and their economies more than it hurt Russia, all in all the West is doing more harm to itself and its own citizens than achieving anything. China has just done away with Western chip makers altogether, again harming the Wests economies.

AC, you're just falling for the fantasies your click-bait sources feed you. You always fall for the fantasies your click-bait sources feed you and when they turn out to be wrong, just move on to the next set of fantasies without ever questioning whether you ought to be more circumspect next time around.

Its why you've gotten so much wrong.

When will the world act against the Zionist Nazi's. 25 countries, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the U.K. The 25 have released a joint statement calling for the immediate end of the war in Gaza and accusing Israel of not allowing sufficient aid in, demanding it must do so to comply with international humanitarian law. The statement criticises what it calls the "inhumane killing" of Palestinians and condemns the "drip feeding of aid". Note that the great warmonger America is absent from the list, obviously as long as the Zionist Nazi's are buying billions of dollars of weapons from them, they don't much care how many innocent people they kill!

My sincere apologies of posting the wrong links, Telstra signal is too slow again to keep up with copy & paste.

https://youtu.be/pPzIRijp9Jo?si=SlY7IX5ux-6tLi9A

Let's try again !

Indy,

Old and slow just like Telstra, both born in the same year 1901. One a blow in, the other is dinky-di Aussie.

Paul missed one part of the statement made by the 28 nations...

“The hostages cruelly held captive by Hamas since 7 October 2023 continue to suffer terribly. We condemn their continued detention and call for their immediate and unconditional release,”

I'm not sure how Paul missed that bit. Probably just an oversight. Nothing to do with antisemitic partisanship...nosiree.

AC July 14 ....
"As for the nuclear program there was no radiation contamination detected, the strike was unsuccessful, theatre, because everything had been moved prior to US airstrikes."

Iranian foreign minister yesterday ...

“The facilities have been destroyed,” he later acknowledged, noting that Iran hasn’t been able to refine nuclear fuel since President Trump ordered military strikes on three uranium enrichment sites on June 22.

Who to believe? Tough choice.

Trumpster,

I didn't miss any part, I didn't copy and paste the joint statement at all, but for your benefit you can read it in its entirety at the link. I agree with the statement 100%. What about YOU? How about the warmongering Americans with their massive arms sales (profits) to Israel to allow them to murder innocent men, women and children. BTW YOU are yet to explain how a day old child is a terrorist and deserves to die? YOU said all Palestinians are guilty. That obviously includes babies, enough of them have been murdered already! YOU must agree with murdering innocent people including babies!

http://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-on-the-occupied-palestinian-territories

"YOU said all Palestinians are guilty. "

Actually I didn't. I said the Palestinians are guilty. As a people they are guilty of invading Israel. As a people they are guilty of electing and supporting Hamas. As a people they are guilty of cheering the rape, murder and capture of Israelis.

You might think that Hamas operatives ought to be protected from the consequences of their murder and warmongering by hiding behind women and children, but its not valid.

You want the war to end. Then support the calls for Hamas to release the hostages and surrender. It'll be over tomorrow.

But you don't want the war to end like that. You, like Hamas, want to use the women and children of Gaza as weapons to force the defeat of Israel. But the Israelis won't allow that to happen.

By the way, I seem to recall a few years back when discussing the communists killing of the Romanov children that you thought it was fine to let them suffer the fate because of the crimes of their parents. What changed? As if I didn't know.

Trumpster,

"By the way, I seem to recall a few years back when discussing the communists killing of the Romanov children that you thought it was fine to let them suffer the fate because of the crimes of their parents. What changed? As if I didn't know"

A blatant lie on your part, in fact I deplore all killings/murders including that of the Romanov's. As for you, killing innocent children as a means to an end is okay. BTW, Killing thousands of innocent Palestinians, and then justifying it as "just targeting Hamas operatives", is simply bullsh!t, and you know it! With the Trumpster, it's easy to see how Hitler was able to convince so many Germans of the necessity of action the Nazi's "had" to take against the Jews. Like the Palestinians to the Zionists, the Jews were an inconvenient problem for the Nazi's, and had to be dealt with. Agree Trumpster?

"A blatant lie on your part, in fact I deplore all killings/murders including that of the Romanov's. "

Paul 20 July 2018 during a thread I started on the anniversary of the murder of the Romanovs.....

I had written ..."Which brings us to the charming Paul1405 who thinks the murder of the Romanov kids was just to be expected because of the actions of their ancestors."

The charming Paul responded... "The short answer mhaze is yes. I am surprised it took the violent Bolsheviks as long as it did to murder the Czar and his family."

Paul deplores all killings, except when he doesn't.

Trumpster,

How stupid, not even capable of primary school comprehension! There I said I'm "SURPRISED" it took the "VIOLENT BOLSHEVIKS", who had murdered thousands of people on coming to power, that they had not murdered the Romanov's much earlier than they did. WHERE HAVE I SAID I CONDONED THOSE MURDERS! Unlike YOU and the murderous actions of the Zionist Nazi's in Gaza. which YOU have indicated by you posts that you approve of.

p/s. I suppose Old Farts have a lot of time on their hands. Good to see you trawling through my posts for the past 5 years to try an incriminate me, and YOU still got it wrong! Time wasted, how long did it take YOU, all day? I'm sure Nursey will be along soon to tuck you in.

Paul,

No where did you deplore the murder of the Romanov kids. ""The short answer mhaze is yes."

It took me about a minute to find that quote. I went to my list of posts, searched on the word "Romanov", found the thread and then your post. About 1 minute. It helps that I remembered what you wrote.... unlike you.

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BTW Paul, are you going to become vegan? Remember when you were telling us that the reason US beef was banned from Australia was because it was riddled with Mad Cow Disease and the government was just protecting us. Nothing to do with protecting the beef industry.... nosiree.

Well the ban has just been lifted. They've now decided that there isn't any problem with US meat. But I'm sure Paul is trembling in his jocks each time he takes a bit of his hamburger. Worried that he might catch Mad Cow Disease. Although in the case of Paul I'm not sure we'd notice the difference.

Clearly the government has caved to the logic of the Trump regime.

You'd need to have a heart of stone not to laugh about it.

Trumpster,

You bring up an historical event from over 100 years ago, the murder of the Russian Czar and his family in 1918, claiming nonsense about me. I bring up the here and now with the Zionists Nazi's murdering innocent children daily in Gaza (31 yesterday) and you wont condemn it, in fact you condone it as all Palestinians, including children, according to you are guilty in your eyes, and deserve to die.

BTW, You are a liar I never said American beef was; "riddled with Mad Cow Disease" What! The majority of their herd of 87 million beasts. You are a fool, as JD and AC point out often enough.

Your folk hero The Orange Man isn't welcome in Australia, as we have strict bio-security laws, given his close personal relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, you wouldn't know what poxy disease the grub might be carrying

"You are a liar I never said American beef was; "riddled with Mad Cow Disease"

Do you want me to find that quote too. It was only a few weeks ago. Surely you haven't forgotten that already or have you conveniently forgotten it now that your beloved Albo has forced you to pretend you never thought what you previously thought.

As to the Palestinian children, you don't get it and I'm guessing you'll never get it. The Palestinian people are guilty of waging war on Israel. Israel defends itself. The Palestinian leadership hides behind women and children which means that they become cannon fodder because of Hamas's policies, not Israel's policies.

"You want the war to end[?] Then support the calls for Hamas to release the hostages and surrender. It'll be over tomorrow. But you don't want the war to end like that. You, like Hamas, want to use the women and children of Gaza as weapons to force the defeat of Israel. But the Israelis won't allow that to happen."

Trumpster,

The only ones claiming Hamas fighters are hiding behind women and children, and the only ones who believe that now are YOU and the Zionist Nazi's. It ZN propaganda. The ZN's wont allow any neutral verification of their ridiculous claims, because they want to hide the truth of the war crimes they are committing.

Yes provide the quote you attributed to me; "riddled" (covered, saturated) your word. There were a couple of cases of Mhaze Cow Disease detected, the problem for Australia was the American's couldn't verify the movements of cattle from Canada and Mexico. They couldn't establish with certainty what was domestic bred cattle and what were imported cows. Had they been in contact with each other.

"The government confirmed on Thursday morning that the Department of Agriculture would allow the imports into Australia, saying the US now “effectively” manages biosecurity risks in beef production."

Not Albo, not the Orange Man, its the independent Dept of Agriculture, after considering the present state of affairs with American beef, they have decided to life the ban, I have no problem with that.

You'll fall for anything if the people you genuflect toward say it. We've had this fake biosecurity ban in place for 20 years. The Yanks have been complaining that its really just a tariff by another name for 20 years. Nothing happened.

Then Trump comes along, puts some muscle behind the complaints and all of a sudden the government decides that the biosecurity problems have gone away. Just coincidence they say. And you fall for it.

You've gotta have a heart of stone not to laugh.

Trumpster,

Wrong again; "the government decides that the biosecurity problems have gone away." When did the Dept of Agriculture, become the government. BTW waiting for you reference quote where I said the American beef herd was "RIDDLED", with disease of any description.

Well, what about your Orange Man and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and their little secrets. Did you see the drawing Trump did of a naked young girl he sent to Epstein. I seen the drawing and I would say it looks like the girl is about 10 years old. Maybe you think the Orange Man has artistic talent in that direction.

"Did you see the drawing Trump did of a naked young girl he sent to Epstein. "

I saw the drawing someone who remains anonymous claimed Trump did.

Not surprised you believed it. You'll fall for anything.

As to beef...

Here's what you said when trying to justify the Australian trade embargo on US beef... ""US animal health officials, have identified 6 BSE (mad cow disease) cases in cows in the United States. One was imported from Canada and is believed to have been infected there. The others were diagnosed with atypical BSE."

You used that to support the Australian authorities. But now that they've backtracked, you fall into line. Good boy.

While rereading that thread I came across this...

ME: "And I'd be willing to bet that the Australian quarantine control authorities are currently re-examining the trade barriers against US beef."
JD: "Where is the proof."
Comprehension dear boy!!
Its my opinion that a prudent Australian government would be doing this."

I'd have won my bet. Don't you just hate it when I'm so prescient.

Trumpster,

6 in a herd of 87 million, hardly "RIDDLED", just another one of your lies, still waiting for you to post where I used the word "RIDDLED" or any word of similar meaning.

How did you manage to confuse a ban with a tariff, they are not the same thing, but you and the Orange Man seem to think they are.

You made reference to "hamburgers", much of the Australian beef exported to the US is used in hamburger patties, mixed with the local product, something to do with fat content. As for US beef into Australia, I can't see that there would be a big market here, considering US beef is a inferior product, and more expensive.

Both John and myself always rely on the science, unlike you who relies on the ravings of your Mad American Fuehrer!

BTW, Trump was told as recently as May that he is named in the 'Epstein Files', several times in fact. Then there are the pics of Trump and Epstein together arm in arm, with what seem to be young teenage girls.

"Both John and myself always rely on the science"

Now that's funny.

Meanwhile even the ABC is mocking the government's claims that the timing of the lifting of the ban against US beef is a mere coincidence as regards the tariff discussions. Even the ABC can see through the government lies. Who knows, one day even you might see it.

One a blow in, the other is dinky-di Aussie
Paul1405,
So, those with no retort always resort to ridicule. Why not comment on that video ? Is it because it's from your side mentality wise & you haven't been indoctrinated enough with all the stock answers ?
Either way, you keep proving your character at almost every comment !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhjbuq5VzBo

For those who choose to look the other way !