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Queensland Rejects Environment-Destroying Windmills

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ttbn,

So, when the facts won’t play along, just crank up the volume? You've spun a poll showing Gen Z worries about energy bills into full-blown climate denial.

Most people don’t want higher costs, sure. But that doesn’t mean they want to torch net zero. You're confusing hesitation with agreement, and it's wishful thinking.

//Electricity bills have almost doubled over the past four years, and there has been no effect on the climate whatsoever.//

Bold claim. How would you know?

People pushing this line bounce between “the climate isn’t changing” and “it’s always changed,” depending on the mood. But now you’re confident enough in your grasp of global climate patterns to declare the impact of mitigation efforts with certainty?

What’s more likely: the CSIRO, NASA, NOAA, the BoM, and every major scientific body on Earth are wrong… or some anonymous guy in Australia with a grudge against Chris Bowen is?

And no, renewables aren’t driving up prices. Regulators have been crystal clear: the culprits are gas volatility, network costs, and profit margins. If solar and wind caused high power bills, countries like Portugal and Denmark - with the highest renewable shares - wouldn’t have the lowest wholesale prices in Europe. But they do.

//Carbon dioxide produced by fossil fuels has nothing to do with climate change. It's a myth, a lie.//

Right. Well, just as soon as you find the slightest shred of evidence for that, be sure to tell the rest of the world, won't you?

You can throw insults at Bowen, rage about diesel tests, and daydream about the 1950s all you like - but here’s reality: SA’s grid runs mostly on renewables. Your state disproves your argument every day.

//It’s time the loyalty of the political class was seriously questioned.//

That’s mere conspiracy crankery. The kind you find on Facebook, wedged between flat Earth memes and ads for colloidal silver.

When the direction of policy matches the overwhelming weight of evidence from decades of research, it’s not loyalty that needs questioning - it’s the ability to recognise reality when it’s staring you in the face.
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 12:44:13 AM
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ttbn, what a joke!

"The South Australian Liberal Party has called on the Federal Liberal Party to drop Net Zero."

Did they call from the SA Liberal Party phone box, aka party room? Anyway, the Federal Liberals are too busy stabbing each other in the front and back to take calls.

I did hear, that at the last Federal Liberal Party meeting Squeaky Ley screamed; "There's a National in the room! That black shella Nambepambe, sitting in the corner, holding the big knife with my name on it! Men, remember the policy, no chicks allowed! You know what to do!!"...."Angus, no not me, HER!"
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 4:48:52 AM
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SA’s grid runs mostly on renewables.
John daysh,
Why only mostly, what's stopping them from going all the way ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 6:33:13 AM
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Good question, Indyvidual.

Ultimately? The political and ideological resistance of a loud minority driven by fear, identity, and tribalism.

We could’ve been further along by now, but instead of investing in solutions, we spent decades debating with people who think every wind turbine is a communist plot.
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 9:35:25 AM
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SA runs mainly on renewables? When it isn't taking power from NSW. I live in SA. Eastern staters don't even know where it is - thankfully. Labor blew up our only coal powered generator. The Greek taxi driver now responsible for energy here was crapping himself during the past Summer, and had to beg for permission to recommission two diesel generators in case we had another serious, state-wide blackout like the one we had when we last lost power from interstate. It was weeks before power was restored in some regions.

I note that John Daysh is still emitting crap out of his arse. I know it is crap from past experience only. I never read anything he bangs out these days.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 9:58:10 AM
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Thanks, ttbn. I was waiting for someone to raise those points.

//"SA runs mainly on renewables? When it isn't taking power from NSW.//

Yes, SA does run mainly on renewables. And like every other state, it sometimes imports power. That’s not failure - that’s exactly how a national grid is designed to work: sharing load and smoothing peaks.

//Labor blew up our only coal powered generator.//

Because it was old, inefficient, and no longer needed. Renewables had already overtaken it in output, and keeping it on standby was more costly than replacing it with more efficient solutions.

//The Greek taxi driver now responsible for energy here was crapping himself during the past Summer...//

No, he wasn't. Those diesel generators were part of a contingency plan, tested but not used. And they were brought in after 2016 to ensure backup - the kind of responsible planning you'd expect in a transitioning grid.

//...in case we had another serious, state-wide blackout like the one we had when we last lost power from interstate.//

The 2016 blackout had nothing to do with wind or interstate supply. It was caused by damaged transmission towers during a once-in-50-year storm. The grid’s automatic protections kicked in. It was a transmission issue, not a generation one.

//It was weeks before power was restored in some regions.//

Most areas had power restored within hours. A few remote sites took longer due to physical infrastructure damage - again, nothing to do with the generation mix.

//I note that John Daysh is still emitting crap out of his arse. I know it is crap from past experience only. I never read anything he bangs out these days.//

I wouldn't expect that you read anything I wrote - you're protecting your worldview. The fact that you come back with more of the same after it's just been discredited is what makes replying so rewarding. It reveals far more than anything I could say would.
Posted by John Daysh, Tuesday, 3 June 2025 10:35:43 AM
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