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Queensland Rejects Environment-Destroying Windmills

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If we are going to get to net zero, then emissions have to DEcrease. Yes, Yes, I know that that is a concept that eludes the likes of Paul and JD, so they'll just have to trust me that its true!!

But gee whiz...lookie hear. The most recent figures show that emissions are INcreasing. Not only increasing this year but higher now than when Albo took over. So despite all the hoopla about what a wonderful job they're doing, we're going backwards on their core promises.

Now I know that the legacy media will seek to hide these facts and the likes of JD with have a myriad reasons why we should pretend that things going up are really going down (reasons that amount to 'I don't want it to be true, therefore it isn't').

If it wasn't for the fact that agriculture had a bad year the who debacle would have been even worse, but I don't think growing less food is a winning strategy.

Add to this the real world evidence that renewables increase electricity prices with the recently announced 9% increase in prices about to hit the consumer and business and we see that the whole house of cards is unravelling.

It'll just take some a lot longer to cotton-on.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 1 June 2025 9:39:43 AM
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Ah yes, mhaze.

Emissions tick up slightly, and suddenly net zero is a “house of cards.” Never mind that short-term fluctuations are expected in any long-term transition. One year’s data isn’t a death knell, unless you’re looking for one.

//If we are going to get to net zero, then emissions have to DEcrease.//

Of course. Nobody’s debating that. But emissions don’t fall in a perfect line - they respond to economic rebounds, energy exports, and weather patterns. The broader trend, not the blip, is what matters.

//The most recent figures show that emissions are INcreasing. Not only increasing this year but higher now than when Albo took over.//

Yes, by a margin. But emissions are still below pre-COVID levels. The increase is modest, driven by post-pandemic industrial activity and energy exports, not some systemic failure of renewables.

Then you offer this:

//Add to this the real world evidence that renewables increase electricity prices with the recently announced 9% increase in prices about to hit the consumer and business and we see that the whole house of cards is unravelling.//

That’s not “real world evidence.” It’s selective blame. Regulators point to network costs, gas price volatility, and retail profit margins - not wind farms - as the drivers of price rises. If renewables inherently raised prices, countries with high penetration like Portugal or Denmark would be broke. Instead, they’re enjoying some of the lowest wholesale prices in Europe.

You keep treating this as some grand unravelling. But what’s actually coming apart is the illusion that fossil fuels are cheap, stable, or future-proof. The clean energy shift isn’t collapsing, it’s evolving. And your argument can’t keep up.

You can yell “fire” all you like, but when investment is booming, deployment is accelerating, and the grid keeps cleaning up, it’s pretty clear what’s actually burning: your talking points.
Posted by John Daysh, Sunday, 1 June 2025 10:09:54 AM
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The South Australian Liberal Party has called on the Federal Liberal Party to drop Net Zero.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 2 June 2025 6:18:37 PM
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It is ok to destroy environment for housing but not ok to destroy environment for power generation.
Posted by doog, Monday, 2 June 2025 7:01:22 PM
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Yes, ttbn.

And after all that’s been discussed here, even you should know now just how unwarranted such a move is.

Notice how the South Australian Liberals haven’t gone into any real detail about why the federal party should abandon net zero? That’s because the so-called “threats” Antic rattles off would be magnified, not solved, by halting the transition.

He claims net zero is a threat to our energy security - but South Australia itself is the clearest rebuttal to that. The state already sources the majority of its electricity from renewables and has led the way in grid stability through large-scale batteries, smart infrastructure, and diversified inputs.

Meanwhile, it’s gas - the very fuel Antic wants to lean into - that’s caused recent price shocks and supply instability. The idea that fossil fuels offer certainty while renewables breed chaos sounds great until you actually check the data.

And if we’re talking cost, the story’s even clearer: renewables are now the cheapest form of new generation in Australia. Abandoning net zero wouldn’t shield households from rising costs - it would tether them to a volatile global fossil fuel market, with all the geopolitical strings attached.

This wasn’t a policy shift. It was a performance - and one the moderate faction of the state branch of his party are distancing themselves from.

Antic doesn't have a credible alternative - net zero simply offends his culture war sensibilities. There’s no modelling. No roadmap. Just ideology dressed up as pragmatism.

And irony of ironies: he’s doing it from a state whose renewable success utterly disproves his point.
Posted by John Daysh, Monday, 2 June 2025 7:59:16 PM
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According to Resolve Polling, the scare tactics about climate change aren't working on Generation Z anymore. They are more concerned about the cost of electricity, which is steadily rising. 55% of them support a pause on Net Zero.

As for the cost to carry on with the totally unrealistic, impossible Net Zero bollocks: 90% said that they wouldn't pay more than an extra $100, and they know that their bills have gone up a lot more than that already, and the next increase has been officially announced as an increase of 34% on today's prices.

Ideology is at last being replaced with pragmatism. There's a lot of talk, but when it comes to footing the bill, enthusiasm dries up.

Electricity bills have almost doubled over the past four years, and there has been no effect on the climate whatsoever. Carbon dioxide produced by fossil fuels has nothing to do with climate change. It's a myth, a lie.

The biggest liar and idiot is the Minister for Stupid Pronouncements, Chris Bowen, who was kept under wraps during the whole election campaign. While this idiot was chuntering away, his SA counterpart had to seek permission to reinstate two diesel generators.

Gen Z has finally realised that demonstrations and slogans don't pay energy bills. And stupid though they may have been when activism was hip, they know that Australia has slipped down the growth and economic scale eight times deeper than any similar country, due mainly to the cranky Net Zero dogma and the cranks who started it and still push it despite its obvious failure and the damage it has done to the wealth and happiness of Australians.

European countries have finally woken up. Queensland is on the ball. The federal uniparty is just plain pighead - unable to admit a mistake - or just determined to bring Australia to its knees while making Communist China richer and more dangerous.

It's time the loyalty of the political class was seriously questioned.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 2 June 2025 11:35:19 PM
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