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Queensland Rejects Environment-Destroying Windmills

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That’s not evidence of failure,
John Daysh,
Only in your mind. The great failure is in the fact that alternative energy such as wind generators are massively polluting from planning to final disposal after which no-one has any idea what to do with the useless junk.
I understand that you're in panic mode in case someone in Government wakes up to the con that is Net Zero & associated infrastructure. Granted, it's very good money for many but those who have to actually work so they can be fleeced for the money given to your fairy tale Net Zero pyramid schemes don't share your faux idealism.
As I stated before, the sooner we can have non-polluting energy the better however, your idea of non-polluting fails the Pub test at every turn !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 6 June 2025 6:49:55 PM
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Indyvidual,

So when facts don’t cooperate, shift to pub tests and pyramid schemes?

You say wind turbines are “massively polluting” - from planning to disposal. Yet somehow, even with that life-cycle impact accounted for, they still emit less CO2 per kilowatt-hour than coal, gas, or even biomass. That’s not my opinion - that’s the data from the IPCC, the IEA, and every national energy agency with a calculator.

You call Net Zero a “fairy tale” and a “pyramid scheme,” but offer no evidence of this besides vague grumbling and imagined conspiracies. And yes, some people make money from building infrastructure - just like they do from roads, ports, and power lines. That’s not corruption. That’s called a functioning economy.

As for “useless junk”? You’re a few years behind. Turbine blades are already being recycled into everything from cement to car parts. The rest - steel, copper, rare earths - is highly reusable. Compare that to coal ash, methane leaks, and the tailings from fossil fuel extraction. That’s pollution with no upside.

And finally, your “pub test” is telling. We used to say the same thing about smoking, seatbelts, and climate science itself. The truth isn’t what gets a round of applause after three schooners - it’s what holds up when the hangover wears off.

If you genuinely want non-polluting energy, great - but don’t mistake performative cynicism for a plan.
Posted by John Daysh, Friday, 6 June 2025 7:34:41 PM
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Hi John,

I've been reading your posts, and your interaction with the pair of regular forum old farts, Indy and ttbn. Its a no contest, like with most things that pair comment on, its self evident they are clueless.

This is a bit rich from ttbn, "Most posters don't bother with you (JD) at all." Considering this old fella is by far the most prolific forum poster, he rarely invokes a response to his daily diatribes at all.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 7 June 2025 5:03:18 AM
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Thanks, Paul. It's always good to see someone still awake at the wheel.

It’s amusing really: I post evidence-based arguments, and ttbn’s masterstroke is to tell people not to engage, as if I’m some kind of cursed object. When substance fails, it’s back to the schoolyard - "Don’t talk to him!” - followed by the delusion that this somehow proves I’ve lost the room.

Yet, I’m not here to win applause or count up likes. If anything, being ignored just makes the job easier. No distractions. Just me, their claims, and the silence that follows when they realise they can’t answer.

If ttbn thinks that social cold-shouldering will make me vanish, he’s read me as poorly as he’s read the energy market. I’m not driven by the same primitive tribal reflexes he clearly is.
Posted by John Daysh, Saturday, 7 June 2025 7:42:52 AM
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Hi Paul,

Yes, the "no one on olo agrees with you" comment caught my attention as well.

John,

I thank you your comments here and am glad you get a kick out of it. As frustrating and annoying as I find you at times, discussions make people think about the world, which must be a good outcome. So good on you for participating.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 7 June 2025 8:02:54 AM
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Fester,

Now there’s something I didn’t expect to read this morning. Thank you - sincerely - for the generous words.

We don’t often agree, but credit where it’s due: you’ve shown more intellectual humility in one paragraph than some posters have managed in a decade.

And you’re absolutely right - it’s the thinking, not just the winning, that matters. Disagreement handled well sharpens ideas. Handled poorly, it just sharpens pitchforks.

Appreciate your comment.
Posted by John Daysh, Saturday, 7 June 2025 8:58:03 AM
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