John Daysh,
That's your most lame retort to-date. You're not trying to out-do Paul1405 by any chance ?

Indyvidual,

John Daysh is just a snake in the grass who doesn't have what it takes to initiate a thread himself. Like all cowards, he can only criticise others. You are enabling him by responding to his nasty bullying.

Indyvidual,

When your best comeback is that something was “lame,” you’ve effectively confirmed it struck a nerve.

You didn’t address a single point I raised - not the emissions reductions, not the cost trends, not the nonsense about wind pollution somehow being “in addition to” coal. You just waved it away and reached for a playground insult.

If you really think I’m wrong, then refute the argument. But if “lame” is all you’ve got, maybe sit this one out next time - you’re only making my case stronger.

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ttbn,

I know you’re desperate to shift the attention from what was said to who said it, but this is particularly thin gruel. Your real issue isn’t that I haven’t started a thread - it’s that I’ve corrected yours a little too often for comfort.

And the idea that I'm "bullying" by disagreeing with you publicly? That’s rich, coming from someone who throws out insults like confetti, calls people “rats” and “cowards,” and urges others to shun them.

If calling out falsehoods with evidence and logic now qualifies as bullying, then perhaps it’s not me who’s in the wrong forum.

You just waved it away and reached for a playground insult.
John Daysh,
My Neighbour had mechanical problems with his tractor so I left the computer to help him.
Regarding your points; there is now emission reduction, it's an increase & a huge one at that. 3000 electric cars burning on a ship probably doesn't count as pollution in your circles as do the many others all over the world. Costs are over the top to the taxpayers in case you were hiding behind a rock over the past three years or, you simply believe Albo that costs are coming down. I have news for you, ask around & read & listen to people who are paying more instead of the promised less whilst your funding applications are being processed by some irresponsible bureaudroids as directed by your hero Bowen.
Tell us none of that is true !

JD

In this thread, only 2 people except me have responded to you, and nobody has agreed with you. I don't recall anyone agreeing with you since you slithered onto OLO. Most posters don't bother with you at all.

And finally, your 'corrective' mania hasn't changed a thing. You are a lonely loser.

Indyvidual,

No need to invent tractor problems, you could’ve just said you needed time to gather more unverified talking points.

But fine, let’s unpack them:

Emissions are up? Temporarily, yes - as the Climate Change Authority and energy market regulators have noted - largely due to post-pandemic rebounds and drought impacts on hydro. That’s not evidence of failure, it’s a signal we need to accelerate the transition.

EV fires? Are you seriously citing a ship fire - a tragic but rare transport accident - as proof the entire shift to clean energy is invalid? You might want to look up how many petrol vehicles ignite every year.

Costs? Renewables are now the cheapest source of new electricity, and even fossil-friendly AEMO data shows this. Power bills are affected more by gas price volatility and network costs than solar or wind.

If you’re angry about rising prices, you’re directing it at the wrong target. But that’s what this entire debate has been, hasn’t it? Rage first, check facts later - if at all.

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tbn,

So we’ve gone from “don’t feed him” to “no one likes you.” That’s not an argument, it’s a Year 7 coping mechanism.

The fallacy you’re leaning on here is argumentum ad populum - the idea that if enough people ignore someone, they must be wrong. Strange, though, how you embrace popularity as a stand-in for truth here, while dismissing the scientific consensus on climate change as irrelevant.

You can’t have it both ways: either numbers matter or they don’t.

And let’s be honest - if your views were truly unassailable, you wouldn’t need to rely on headcounts, sneers, and “pretend he doesn’t exist” tactics. You’d be making the case directly.

I’m not here for applause. I’m here to challenge nonsense parading as fact. And judging by how much time you now spend not engaging while still talking about me, I’d say it’s getting under your skin more than you’d like to admit.

But by all means - carry on pretending no one’s listening. I’ll keep showing up with receipts.