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Voting and reasons

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Senator Matt Canavan, a true conservative and the only decent person left in politics in my opinion, says that Price's funny business is no different from that of Lydia Thorpe, who left the Greens.

I never thought anyone could as bad as Thorpe, but there it is.

It's less than a week, says Canavan, that Price was voted into the National's party room. If she wanted to be in the Liberal's party room, she should “have stood for a Liberal seat just a week ago”.

The Liberal Party will be lucky to survive, let alone ever form a government with a box-ticking, part aboriginal, woman, leader/PM.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 9 May 2025 10:28:51 AM
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Post election chat: how about the media's/wackjobs’ comparison of Dutton with Trump!

Trump says Albanese is “very good”, but he has never heard of Dutton - doesn’t “know anything about him”.

If the usual shiteforbrains, professional and amateur keyboard warriors wanted to compare Dutton with an American, Biden would be the better comparison; even he couldn't come up with the appalling campaign Dutton did.

Dutton has been described as a puppet run by the Left of the Liberal Party, in a way similar to the Democrat hard Left's string work on Biden. Good riddance. But, Susan Ley for leader just to solve their "woman problem"? She would finish them all off.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 9 May 2025 10:49:43 AM
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Since the massacre of the Liberal Party, there has been all sorts of advice to them, mainly from people who have never voted for them: reject the “hard right”; drop nuclear; continue with Net Zero; support censorship and 18c of the HRA; import more people and champion multiculturalism; stick to the centre; pretend not to know what a woman is.

Be just like Labor in other words - something Dutton tried his hardest to do.

The best advice comes from a member of the more conservative commentariat, Roger Franklin. He suggests “Dissolve the Liberal Party”. (Quadrant Online 4/5/25).

Start from scratch. The current mob believes in so “very little”. Nothing much at all since they turned on Tony Abbott.

Australians finding it hard to recognise the country they grew up in have no reason to feel “anything but contempt for the Liberals”.

Some of the things that grate with Roger Franklin are:

. the Liberals launched the office of the eSafety Commissioner.
. got rid of Craig Kelly for speaking out against the climate scam.
. took months to go against the Voice.
. joined Labor to enforce laughingly thought to protect children online.

There's lots more, but why would anyone vote for a party that just mimics Labor when Labor is better at it!

Start again, under a new name, with different people, and give Australians a real choice between socialism and common sense, prosperity, safety and the national pride we used to have.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 9 May 2025 3:12:54 PM
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ttbn,

When you say; "common sense, prosperity, safety and the national pride we used to have." you think the majority of Australians are Old Farts from your bygone era, with conservative far righ views. The majority of Australians turned 18 years of age between 2005 and 20025, they are not familiar with your good old days with its spats and straw hats, they are aspirational and progressive. There are a couple of far right radical political parties for old reactionaries like you, they embrace those ideals of yours, and they command about 5% of popular support. You can't accept that Australia has moved on, it no longer accepts your values, it has new progressive values which people like you can't accept and can't understand.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 9 May 2025 4:46:53 PM
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Oh dear, Paul, you fall into the trap of "Far Right" every time.
I think you, and many others, use that term as an insult, when your
target is anything but a follower of Hitler, Putin, Mussolini and a
number of that ilk.
I can only think that anyone who is not of left leaning and that
stupid word "Progressive" has to be "far right".
You make yourself look silly.
The term you should use is "Rightist", "Centre Right", or "Right Wing".
Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 10 May 2025 8:57:40 PM
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Hi Bezza,

In the Australian political context the far right is represented predominantly by One Nation with about 6% of the popular support, and on the left by predominantly the Greens with about 12% support, along with a few parties with no political traction, basically these parties are content to work within the established political framework of a liberal democracy, with a reform from within agenda, that is how they try to further their political aims, which in no way are extreme or radical. Beyond the far positions are the extreme radicals left and right, who totally reject the existing political framework, and want a totally new social and political order put in place, unrecognizable to what is presently the status quo. The existing Australian political structure with its social cohesion is to stable for the extremes to gain traction. Give massive unemployment, rapidly declining living standards, and social instability then the extreme radicals will gain in popularity as did the Fascists and Communists in Australia during the 1930's, years of the Capitalists Great Depression. The historical radical figures like Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin came to power when their countries existing political structure totally failed which opened the door to allow them to enter, and take total control.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 11 May 2025 7:14:50 AM
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