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Immigration: Low and Slow

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Dear Indyvidual,

Are you sure that your last response is intended for me and not for someone else?

When I wrote, "they would draw the only reasonable conclusion", etc.
I was specifically referring to transgenders in America; Ukrainians who don't want to be Russians; and religious Chinese people who are prevented from practising their religion there.

How did you possibly get from that into discussing Australian immigration policies?

Yes, I do believe that many transgenders who by Trump's orders are now treated according to their birth-sex will therefore escape to other countries like Canada, and if they cannot (because Canada has become the USA's 51st state), then indeed they will top themselves.
Same with Ukrainians and religious Chinese if they are no longer able to escape.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 13 March 2025 9:33:47 PM
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Yuyutsu,
Tell me, are you for or against society working together ? I believe Democracy & Socialism can not work because we simply can't put everyone in the same basket. Modern society does in fact not support these philosophies yet the academic intellectual elite pushes them as a smokescreen to cover its actual irrelevance. They merely echo ideology but never produce any practical outcome & that in itself creates disunity because by its nature it is parasitism.
These are the benign dictators who keep telling us WE must be compassionate & help those who have no intention to help themselves.
They're not the ones losing their jobs & home ownership prospects by purchasing migrants to vote against those who produce the wealth we all live off.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 14 March 2025 11:08:03 AM
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Dear Indyvidual,

OK, so you have changed the subject and like to talk about something else. Fine with me, then we start a new conversation.

«Tell me, are you for or against society working together?»

I am all for societies that are voluntary.
I do not approve of societies where individuals are included against their will or without being asked first.

The former ought to be working together, after all their members so chose.
The latter ought to have discord, the more the better so they eventually break up.

«I believe Democracy & Socialism can not work because we simply can't put everyone in the same basket.»

I don't mind either, along a range of so many other governance options: once a society is voluntary, these are all optional, depending on what its members want.

«Modern society does in fact not support these philosophies»

Well of course: modern societies are not voluntary, so their philosophy is oppression, "might is right". They do not have my blessing.

«They merely echo ideology but never produce any practical outcome & that in itself creates disunity because by its nature it is parasitism.»

If you don't like parasitism, then go ahead and form your own society where one of its principles is anti-parasitism. So long as society remains involuntary, I wish it many parasites and as much disunity as can possibly be.

«These are the benign dictators who keep telling us WE must be compassionate & help those who have no intention to help themselves.»

I did not tell you to be compassionate: suit yourself and if you don't want to be compassionate then it's your own loss!

«They're not the ones losing their jobs & home ownership prospects by purchasing migrants to vote against those who produce the wealth we all live off.»

These concepts of jobs and home ownership are forced on us by the existing predatory society which never asked us to begin with whether or not we agree to belong to and whether its philosophy is acceptable to us. Why then should I care for it to gain any wealth?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 14 March 2025 12:25:34 PM
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once a society is voluntary, these are all optional, depending on what its members want.
Yuyutsu,
That'd mean many societies within society ! How on Earth can common guidelines be put in place with so many variations ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 14 March 2025 3:51:44 PM
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Dear Indyvidual,

«That'd mean many societies within society ! How on Earth can common guidelines be put in place with so many variations ?»

Oh, but this is not what I meant:

Each society should be able to choose its internal method of governance, whether that be democracy (direct or representative), monarchy, socialism, capitalism, theocracy, oligarchy or whatever, perhaps some combination but certainly not all at once - different societies are likely to choose different methods and I am happy with them all, whatever the involved people want.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 14 March 2025 4:10:13 PM
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whatever the involved people want.
Yuyutsu,
It's not about "want" it's about harmony & want is the biggest hurdle for harmony ! We all want what's best for us & by that we have to consider our impact on others. A well functioning society can only function well when guidelines are followed instead of crossed.
Willy nilly immigration simply to buy votes is chocking the host society whereas planned immigration is constructive.
Migrants & refugees are not in a position to demand & it is wrong in every aspect for a mismanaging Government to exploit people in need at the expense of those who mistakingly put them into Government.
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 15 March 2025 7:11:46 AM
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