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ALP Hypocrites At Auschwitz-Birkenau

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cont'd ...

http://hrw.org/news/2025/01/22/statement-recent-hate-crimes-australia
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 12:57:02 PM
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Hi Foxy.

I agree that both Islamophobia and Anti-Semitism have got worse since October 2023, but I’m not sure that all of the instances in the source you link to should be classified as Islamophobia. In two cases, attacks were made on property displaying flags supporting the Palestinian cause. Israel’s critics argue – correctly – that not all criticism of Israel’s actions or even Zionism in principle is Anti-Semitic. But equally, it is not necessarily Islamophobic to disagree vehemently with supporters of the Palestinian cause. If a person is attacked for wearing a Star of David necklace, it is almost certainly Anti-Semitic. If they are attacked for wearing an “I stand with Israel” t-shirt, it may not be.

I am in no way excusing the use of violence or destruction of property, whether the motive is racist or ideological. But sometimes, the distinction is important.
Posted by Rhian, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 1:54:29 PM
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There's no evidence that hate crime against this or that group has increased, decreased or stayed the same. Foxy's useless link says "The Commission has highlighted that data on racism in Australia is limited, inconsistent across jurisdictions, and often ad-hoc.". There's an old adage that if you don't want to know the answer then don't collect the statistics.

If you don't want it proven that antisemitic crimes are on the increase, don't collect then data. Then the partisans can claim that there's no difference between the level of antisemitic crimes and anti-Islam crimes.

T'was always thus.

Why a useless link? Well Foxy says it explains when it merely describes. Its like watching someone drown and thinking that a description of the water helps. Hint: it doesn't.

Meanwhile, the issue is why the current government has adopted an anti-Israel stance. The answer is because they are desperate to shore-up the Mohammadian vote in marginal electorates. Nothing more noble than that.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 2:30:33 PM
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There were many millions murdered during the Holocaust who were not Jews. Jews came later.

Hitler started with the physically disabled, then the mentally disabled, gays and Roma.

I have seen pictures of young people strung up with piano wire. Their "crime" ... listening to jazz ... considered a degenerate music created by Blacks.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 9:50:40 PM
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Foxy,

Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.

The Palestinians have been offered a state of their own five times ... and have rejected it five times.

Do you think Israel should abandon the hostages? It appears that you do. Disgusting!

You should widen your research ... not rely on the likes of Ilan Pappe.

But I don't think you will. You have an anti-Israel bias and will not look at anything that does not confirm your bias. That catalogue of references you supplied!!

Not an intellectual nor intelligent approach.
Posted by WhiteMouse, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 10:11:36 PM
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"You have an anti-Israel bias and will not look at anything that does not confirm your bias."
- You have a Pro-Israel bias and will not look at anything that does not confirm your bias.

Even when the Palestinian side accepts things from Israels perspective are somewhat reasonable, people from the Israeli side will never accept any perspective from the Palestinian side is reasonable.

And you can't reason with those who refuse to reason.
It's like trying to argue with the woke, they won't listen.
They think only their opinion is valid and matters.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 10:47:05 PM
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