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Religious dress codes

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People in streets and in public we see
in different attires and typical looks.
Hindus are seen sporting cross-threads across their chest.
Christian are found to flaunt cross around the neck.
Sikhs wear colourful turbans over their heads as a mark of religiosity.
Muslim women are dictated to wear burqa when they venture out and Muslim men sport long beards and caps.These
Religious dress codes are followed as a mark of identity. In the process people get segregated on religious lines and this leads to immediate alienation. Therefore we see that people, instead of moving around as human beings, are found to walk in the streets as Christians , Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs etc by wearing peculiar dresses of their respective religion. The right way to distinguish is by following the religious tenets faithfully. Peculiar dress culture will lead only to an immediate alienation from one another, which may and can promote undesirable frictions.
Why not we roam around in public
simply as humans sans alienating dress code?
Posted by Ezhil, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 12:15:51 AM
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I agree, although in many cases it might be people waiting for the clothes they came in to wear out, and they are just thrifty. Where I live, I see old people waddling about in exotic attire, in the company of their young families who are in Western dress. Much of it is not so much 'religious' as it is what everyone wears we they came from. Sikh turbans are really the only overt sigh of a religion; but, if you are going to import all sorts of people, you can't expect them to deny their religion in a country that is committed to freedom of religion.

Just another of the "joys" of multiculturalism that we never voted for I'm afraid.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 7:51:05 AM
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I forgot the most annoying religious symbol, head scarves on Muslim women, although not all Muslim women wear them in the West where they don’t risk being stoned or executed for it.

But, again, our useless political class - the people who forced all this nonsense on us - have bent over backwards to keep people different and at odds with one another. The just love to create differences and strife to keep us on edge and feeling vulnerable so that they can control us.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 7:58:52 AM
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I know what you mean. I went to Brisbane last year to watch the Swans play the Lions and there were all these people walking around wearing Lions guernseys and similar paraphernalia such as scarves and hats. It was very triggering and intimidating.

I think these type of religious outfits ought to be banned since they enhance tribalism.

Of course, I and Mrs mhaze were wearing Swans paraphernalia - but that's different.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 9:00:09 AM
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I was shocked when out shopping at our local supermarket I happened upon a group of 4 white women with head coverings, dressed from head to toe in brown with ropes around their waist. It was only latter that I learnt they were catholic Carmelite nuns. How dare they flaunt their religious affiliations.
Posted by Aries54, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 10:17:01 AM
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Hi Ezhil,

I feel that the real beauty of this country lies not
in its fauna and flora, or its spectacular scenery - but
in the greatest resource any country can have: its people.

The story of Australia is the story of its people. The
Australian people define Australia, create it, and represent it.

Without people, Australia would not be Australia.

Clothing has changed in this country. When the first Fleeters
arrived they considered themselves British. And the fact
that they were on the other side of the world did not stop
them from feeling that way or from wearing totally inappropriate
clothing for the climate.

I still remember what men and women wore during the hot summer
months - in play, and to work, in the sweltering heat. When women
wore hats amd gloves to go to the city.
When summer school uniforms were not available
at all schools and winter uniforms were enforced.
Those horrible black stockings and
tunics, and heavy blazers, and felt hats.

People today are far more flexible, Yes we see differences in
what people today wear - be it according to religion, sport,
culture, or what they feel comfortable in. The choices appear
to be wide and varied and of course there are some choices
that we're not used to and find intimidating and confronting
because they are alien to us. While others are - immodest
to the point of cringing. Apparently some people don't have
mirrors.

But that's life. And the only objection that I have - is -
in the case of modesty. Bare bums and other appendages should
be restricted to set areas, like beaches, and not in our streets
or shopping malls or out in public. What is work at private
functions is a different matter. As in clubs, and drag shows.

We're always going to find things to complain about.
I just wish that I still had my young body today - and the
choices available to young people today.
Sigh.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 10:35:11 AM
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One thing I do have to admit - I do feel far more
comfotable talking to a priest wearing his collar
than to one without the collar - wearing casual clothes.

But that's just me.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 10:43:26 AM
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I forgot to add that in Australia the Constitution protects
the freedom to practice any religion, including the right
to wear religious clothing or sumbols. This right is
also covered by international humanitarian treaties.

There are some limitations - due to health and safety issues
but religion is a freedom that is protected in this country.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 1:29:16 PM
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No religion preaches segregation and alienation. Constitutions are not gospel truths. As we evolve We must make changes in the constitution too.

Let us follow the religious preachings honestly and we find that the physical culture associated with the religions comes in handy to conceal one's shortcomings. This is dangerous to a peaceful society.

The dress codes we are discussing here are for the common citizens and not for clergies,mullahs or priests. Religious dress codes should not show the seeds of hatred among the general population.
Posted by Ezhil, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 2:32:21 PM
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Ezhil,

I think that the problem is not religious dress - but
you.

Why do you associate religious dress with hatred?

I don't.

perhaps you should look within yourself first before
making judgements about others.

Which religious dress do you have in mind that you associate
with hatred.

Remember it's not the dress or religions that cause problems
but usually the people and their interpretations of their
religions. And fundamentalists exist in all religions. They
are a small minority. Most people are not "card carrying"
fundamentalists or extremists.

Don't you love it when multi-faiths come together for
certain occassions in all their splendour. It's quite
wonderful. And makes one realize that we're all humans and
that we don't have to kill each other in the name of the
one god.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 2:59:44 PM
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Dear Ezhil,

«Religious dress codes are followed as a mark of identity.»

Those who do it for that reason are foolish, but most do not.
For most who do, it is a religious injunction, something to do between themselves and God, not themselves and others.

Jewish men for example are supposed to wear Tzitzit, which are four strings dangling in a particular way - their purpose is to help the wearer to remember God at all times and has nothing to do with how others seeing them. Same exactly for the Hindu sacred thread worn diagonally across the chest. Muslims have beards because the Quran does not allow them to shave completely. Sikhs are not allowed to cut their hair - just imagine how else they could walk around otherwise, with uncovered 6-meter-long hair dragging behind.

In a different example, a woman in my family, having recently married, discovered that by wearing a "religious" head-cover she no longer receives unwanted sexual attention from men. While she does not believe that God wants her to cover her hair, she finds it quite useful.

«In the process people get segregated on religious lines and this leads to immediate alienation.»

It is not segregating unless you wish so.
I recently saw a woman in the street, completely covered by a Muslim dress, walking hand in hand with a White/Western/Australian man in shorts. That was beautiful.

I am not alienated by it - if you feel alienated, then the problem is with you and you need to ask yourself why.

Everyone should be free to wear whatever they like, or nothing at all for that matter, that is nobody else's business!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 3:14:34 PM
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Perhaps we should try to find out what type of dress those who are currently attacking Jewish buildings in Sydney's eastern suburbs are wearing.

Methinks its unlikely to be budgie smugglers or King Gee shorts.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 3:15:38 PM
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Religion has no reason to dictate dress codes for people. It is the fanatic religious people who compel to wear a typical dress. Can any one say the benefit of wearing a religious dress? In fact it invites the wrath of other fundamental groups by the very sight of the dress. I am at a loss to understand how you people favour such an unwanted practice which had caused many a strife. As I have already said the religious people should follow the religious dictats seriously rather than basking on physical appearances for the practice of religion.we can also say that people who cannot practice religious disciplines in reality tend to show their religion by physical appearances. That is the reason why problem arises between different religious denominations.
Let us practice religion in our minds and not in our dresses.
Posted by Ezhil, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 5:03:38 PM
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Dear Ezhil,

«I am at a loss to understand how you people favour such an unwanted practice which had caused many a strife.»

But who ever suggested that people should employ unwanted practices and be dictated to or compelled to wear something they do not want?

There is no mention of it in your opening post - we were, so far, discussing people who WANT to wear this or the other religious dress, or have you changed the subject?

«we can also say that people who cannot practice religious disciplines in reality tend to show their religion by physical appearances»

THEIR religion? If they cannot in reality practice some given religious disciplines, then these disciplines are clearly not a part of their religion
- they could of course be a part of other people's religion, but not theirs!
Are we then changing the subject again to talk about pretenders?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 6:02:49 PM
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The topic is pretty serious. It appears that it is too difficult for you to understand.

Let us practice religion in our minds and not in our dresses.
Posted by Ezhil, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 6:46:46 PM
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Dear Ezhil,

«Let us practice religion in our minds and not in our dresses.»

For some people, their dress, along with various other physical routines, support their mental religious practices. Some people need this support.

Perhaps you personally are beyond that stage and no longer need it, perhaps your mind is already so concentrated on God without any need for peripheral support - I don't know you personally.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 6:58:37 PM
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Overall, people are very selective on this issue and only pick out what they like and leave out the rest.

As a person who went to a conservative, private, religious school we were forced to wear and cover our bodies in a very restrictive school uniform.

Not always pleasant to wear and not overly fashionable or to my liking!

I would see other people around wearing whatever they wanted and I had to wear a school blazer with tie and follow strict guidelines on hairstyles for example. The guidelines were worse for female students. Our parents were sent a whole guidebook on how we were meant to look, present ourselves, how our hair should look, what shoes to wear etc.

I'm sure some here will say "Oh but that's schooling...."

A few times we had a uniform free day, which we had to pay for with funds going to a charity we had no say on. Whilst a uniform can remove competition in terms of who has the best brand name clothes, really our schooling shouldn't be about clothes and what fits in with the dogma of a conservative education system. It should be about the quality of the teachings of which it is not.

I see many people with tattoos. I personally don't like them, but respect free choice, just as I do with clothing, particularly as a person forced through a long time of youth wearing things I did not enjoy or like!

I think we should be very grateful as adults in Australia we have in principle free choice on what we wear and how we look. I do feel for those under 18 denied such freedoms at conservative private schools. I find it to be akin to a violation of the rights of the child in terms of the United Nations.
Posted by NathanJ, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 8:38:56 PM
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Talking about dress codes of those who vantalize synangogues?

Vile actions such as these are done by extremists . They
should be arrested and punished.

Luckily they are a minority.

Elon Musk caused a controversy at the US Presidential
inauguration with his Nazi salute. And he was not wearing
a religious garb.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 9:05:56 PM
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Perhaps it was not meant as a Nazi gesture but simply
an enthusiastic one. If he was in Australia doing that
he may have been arrested.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 January 2025 9:11:50 PM
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" If he was in Australia doing that he may have been arrested."

Luck for him he was in a country that still values free speech.

Also lucky for Obama, Hilary and Kamala.

http://tiny.cc/pvu6001

Foxy, I see that we are going to spend the next four years of you falling for every lie and piece of BS put out by the dying legacy media and me pointing out that you've fallen for yet another piece of BS put out by the dying legacy media.

Some would see that as burdensome but I'm going to relish it.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 7:55:11 AM
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mhaze,

Every year I fall for the breathtaking fireworks,
for festivals and parades, sport competitions,
flowers in the spring, fresh summer fruit,
seafood, and family gatherings. But not for any
BS.

I don't relish BS. And in that respect - we are different.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 22 January 2025 8:16:42 AM
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