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Dear mhaze,

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In the United States, the National Institute of Justice found that 84 per cent of Indigenous American women have experienced some form of violence in their lifetimes, while in Canada, indigenous women are almost seven times more likely to be murdered than non-indigenous women.

Similarly, The World Bank estimates that six in ten indigenous women in Ecuador have experienced violence. In fact, indigenous women and girls around the world face systematic violence that permeates every aspect of their lives, according to reports by the UN Special Rapporteur on Violence against Women.

This is rooted in historic and unequal patriarchal power structures, racism, exclusion and marginalization caused by a legacy of colonialism.

The situation in Australia is no different. The same root causes produce the same horrendous domestic violence results among our Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.

Our state and federal governments must take stock of the situation and act accordingly.

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"Sadly due to political forces the police force doesn't seem to be able to focus their efforts on the source of the problem without being accused of stereotyping. "

T'other day, Mrs mhaze and I were watching an ABC news bulletin. One of the main stories was about one of the women who was part of the inquest into the DV deaths. It turned out that her partner and eventual killer had committed a minor offence earlier on the day of the murder, for which he could have been arrested although the police declined to do so. So one of the main points was that the police failed in their duty by NOT arresting the bloke and that resulted in her death. Police, it suggested, should arrest such people even if the charges are minor.

Later in the same bulletin they did a retrospective on the Palm Island riots which was caused by a death in custody. The main point of the story was that the deceased had been arrested on a relatively minor charge. The reporting suggested that police shouldn't arrest people on minor charges.

Irrespective of what happens, the police will be blamed. Its the only certainty in this saga.

Talking about Ayn Rand?

Yes, we deserve to keep what we earn. We deserve freedom
from guilt about doing things for ourselves but Ayn
Rand took it a step further. She pointed out that
altruism was inherently foolish and destructive. She
made the point that producers should hoard all they
produced or distribute it only for personal gain because
they are entitled to it.

That I find problematic because there's more to self-interest
in human existence. Altruism can generate good will and joy,
in itself a valuable thing for any individual.

No one succeeds in a vacuum and no one is an island. We don't
just work on reason alone. We also work on emotion.

Of course there will be people who will be all for
prioritising themselves but for others basking in the joys of
doing things for others brings happiness that can't be
manufactured.

Bill Gates gets this as do many others. When you have plenty
it's a virtue to share.

Ayn Rand's philosophy is interesting. She was born in
St. Petersburg in 1905 to a Jewish family.
12 billionaires with Jewish backgrounds appear on the list
of America's generous givers' who donated a collective
$27 billion in 2022.

Dear Banjo,

The following link may be of interest. It shows
what the NT is investing in - from providing services
to those affected by violence. To programs that seek
to prevent violence over time by changing community
attitudes that condone the use of violence,

http://families.gov.au/domestic-family-and-sexual-violence/domestic-family-and-sexual-violence-prevention

"This is rooted in historic and unequal patriarchal power structures, racism, exclusion and marginalization caused by a legacy of colonialism."

No, these "patriarchal power structures" existed long before the colonialists turned up. All stone aged indigenous societies that the Europeans came upon in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries were highly misogynistic before their arrival. There is ample evidence that Australian aboriginal women were little more than chattels in that society, beaten, enslaved, sometimes sold, often raped and stolen by rival tribes. Archaeological evidence shows aboriginal women suffered broken limbs and fracture skulls in ratios that can't be explained in ways other than the overbearing 'discipline' of their male owners.

Early European arrivals were shocked at the treatment the women received which far exceeded anything then applying or allowed in Europe.

As with all things resulting from the failures of aboriginal culture, the apologists seek to blame the colonialists on the basis that the natives lived in a veritable Eden of plenty, and equality prior to 1770. That Disneyfied thinking works fine for some, but in the real world....

Paul has basically made my point for me. That point being that one of the fundamental solutions to the massively excessive DV in the aboriginal community can't and won't be addressed because it means addressing the massive misogyny inherent in aboriginal culture.

So Paul doesn't deny that there is a massive DV problem with the less integrated aboriginals. He doesn't deny that aboriginal women suffer at rates vastly greater than women in other groups. He just thinks its racist to point it out. And so, by trying to suppress the facts, his approach will ensure that the problem persists. But in the minds of these people like Paul, protecting the reputation of the culture is vastly more important than protecting the actual women.

Posted by mhaze, Monday, 23 December 2024 9:22:01 AM
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=10525#366818
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I remember hearing about the links between the Marxist's and the Aboriginal's that were formed in the 1980's when Hawke and Keating were in Cairns.
It seems that the Marxist Aboriginal groups are reframing abuse by males in Aboriginal communities as white male abuse, just in the way they have sliced the cake. This way destruction in Aboriginal communities is tied to the destruction of White communities- brilliant in it's own evil way.