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Aboriginal Domestic Violence

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Trumpster,

"The point is that DV is VASTLY MORE prevalent in the aboriginal community than in the rest of society." TRUE (not in all aboriginal communities but in the NT it is prevalent), however ask yourself, what are the contributing factors to such a high rate in that particular community, you claim that it is (solely) because of "misogyny within the aboriginal culture". Both Foxy and I say there could be other factors involved as well, including economic and social factors. YOU, given what I see as racial bias, claim it's all down to "aboriginal culture". If you care to look at other areas, like SW Sydney, you find that, although not as economically depressed as the NT aboriginal community, there with its low socioeconomic level, with a minority aboriginal community, also suffers from a high rate of DV. I understand how you want to equate DV to "blackness" but there are other factors.

People like mhaze are more than happy to use DV to attack the aboriginal community, with no real concern for the Aboriginal women who are the victims.

BTW Frosty, its not strawmen this time of year, its SNOWMEN! And they are white.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 2 January 2025 8:31:18 AM
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Dear Paul,

Apparently , I use straw man arguments. Run from the truth.
There's no point in what I say. Don't use logic. I'm inane
and illogical. I seek to hide from "cultural shame" and I
don't believe in protecting women.

Wow - who knew?
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 2 January 2025 8:48:04 AM
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"Wow - who knew?"

Me.

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Again Paul you just make things up. I've never said there aren't other factors. NEVER.

What I've been saying is that one of the main factors, the inherently misogynist aboriginal culture, is being ignored due to "cultural shame" (remember that term was used by one of the aboriginal victims) and while-ever that remains the case, the problem cannot be successfully addressed. I think you understand that but can't bring yourself to admit it, even to yourself.

By the way, you now seem to want to restrict the problem to the NT. But that's just wrong. We are only talking about the NT now because that's where the latest inquest was held which revealed yet again, the high levels of DV against aboriginal women. But previously similar things have been found elsewhere. For example the finding that aboriginal women were 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to DV was first revealed in studies in Western Australia.

I don't know what you were trying to say about SW Sydney, but I suspect you've just conjured up some claims. If you have any statistics, let's see them.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 2 January 2025 9:20:44 AM
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mhaze,

You knew?

Really?

I never would have guessed you were so wise and relatable.

Would you believe that I'm so totally, completely,
eyepopping, seriously groundbreaking, passionately
deliciously impressed with you?

NAH.

Now, that you do know.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 2 January 2025 9:57:45 AM
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Kudos mhaze- Authoritarian's will often hide behind the innocent- that can be embodied in various ways- but the result is pretty similar.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 2 January 2025 3:16:34 PM
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Trumpster,

"I've (mhaze) never said there aren't other factors. NEVER" Yes you did imply that by saying; "the only way to reduce the violence against the native women is to address the misogyny within the aboriginal culture." You have not mentioned "other factors", what are those "other factors"? Do you agree that they could be socioeconomic factors as seems evident for higher than average levels of DV in other sections of the community, and by tackling those poor socioeconomic factors could also help to reduce DV.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 2 January 2025 5:41:21 PM
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