Talking about straw man arguments?

mhaze once again misrepresents my position to make it
easier to attack.

Par for the course.

In order to try and understand the impacts of
domestic violence in Australia in Aboriginal
communities we need to understand the context
in which it occurs. Why it occurs, and by whom.

Is it a part of Aboriginal culture?
We're told that domestic violence
is not part of Aboriginal culture in Australia.

There's more at the following:

http://womenssafetyservices.com.au/aboriginal-torres-strait-islander-clients/#:

http://ourwatch.org.au/preventing-violence/aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-women

So Foxy doesn't deny that she uses strawman arguments, just tries to deflect by making unsupported accusations.

She claims I misrepresents her arguments and then proceeds to NOT show how.

"we need to understand the context in which it occurs. Why it occurs, and by whom."

"By whom"? Oh dear Foxy, if you don't know that then you are way behind almost everyone else who has ever considered the issue.
I'll give you a hint.....its perpetrated by aboriginal men.

"Is it a part of Aboriginal culture?"
Yes...see above. Still trying to avoid that "cultural shame" admission I see.

"We're told that domestic violence is not part of Aboriginal culture in Australia."

No we're not. You have managed to find the odd site that tells you what you want to hear but the facts speak otherwise. This was a problem for aboriginal women long before 1788.

And until people like you come to admit it, native women will continue to be bashed, hospitalised and killed. But I get the feeling that. for some, that is preferable to admitting that aboriginal culture is/was less than ideal.

A couple of points:

It is important to note that violence against Aboriginal
and Torres Strait Islander women is, and also has been,
perpetrated by men of many different cultures
and backgrounds. It is important to also
note that not all Aboriginal men are perpetrators of
violence.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people
are over represented as both victims and perpetrators
of family and domestic violence as available information
shows.

The factors that contribute to violence against
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women have been
given to include:

Historical factors, intergenerational trauma, substance
abuse - alcohol and drugs, racism, imbalance in male and
female roles, to name just a few.

Again, there's more at the following:

http://aihw.gov.au/family-domestic-and-sexual-violence/population-groups/aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-people

"It is important to note that violence against Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women is, and also has been, perpetrated by men of many different cultures and backgrounds."

And not all violence against Caucasian women is perpetrated by white men.
And not all violence against asian women is perpetrated by asian men.
And not all violence against muslim women is perpetrated by muslim men.
And not all violence against lefthanded women is perpetrated by lefthanded men.

There is no point or logic to what Foxy says unless you realises its just her trying to run from the truth.

The fact (remember those Foxy?) is that every dead woman who was part of the NT inquest (see above) was killed by her aboriginal partner. Run from the facts all you want but they won't change.

"It is important to also note that not all Aboriginal men are perpetrators of violence."

No its not important to note it....its completely superfluous to note it. No one is suggesting anything like all aboriginal men a violent against their partner. This is just more of your strawman arguments that are, it should be noted, becoming increasingly inane an illogical.

Again I'll note that while people like Foxy seek to hide from the "cultural shame" of aboriginal DV, native women will die. I can't help but think that protecting the culture's reputation is more important to people like Foxy than protecting the women.

Of course, this isn't the first time we've seen this. The #MeToo movement was created to supposedly protect all women from male perpetrators. But as soon as a senior member of the left was accused, the #MeToo hierarchy rushed to attack the women.

Same here. People like Foxy are more than happy to use DV to attack all (white) men, but as soon as the women being killed are non-white, they can't wait to abandon the women and defend the male culture.

Hi Foxy,

You give the reasons for DV in Aboriginal communities in the NT, "Historical factors, intergenerational trauma, substance abuse - alcohol and drugs, racism, imbalance in male and female roles, to name just a few." mhaze with his racist outlook simply wants to equate such DV to the colour of a persons skin. In other parts of our society with similar socioeconomic outcomes, DV is also very high. We will never stop DV from occurring with people who have a basic instinct for violence. At the other end of the scale there are people who will never be violent regardless of their socioeconomic condition, they don't have violence within them. Its the group in the middle that need to be treated through education and social development that will reduce DV in society.

" mhaze with his racist outlook simply wants to equate such DV to the colour of a persons skin."

More construction of strawmen.

Nowhere have I said, intimated or implied that DV is restricted to aboriginals. Quite the opposite. But that was more than two days ago so Paul will have already forgotten it.

The point is that DV is VASTLY MORE prevalent in the aboriginal community than in the rest of society. It seems to be a concept that eludes poor old Paul. We can't blame him really because it does involve numbers (eg aboriginal women are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to DV).... and numbers have always bamboozled poor old Paul.

My point, the point, for the umpteenth time, is that the only way to reduce the violence against the native women is to address the misogyny within the aboriginal culture. I know people like Paul and Foxy will continue to pretend to not notice it but there remains "cultural shame" around that misogyny.

Paul thinks that by calling me a racist he somehow wins the point. Its all he's got. Why does he think that? Well for him, being called racist would be the ultimate shame and he'll do whatever he needs to do to avoid it, even if it means condemning aboriginal women to more of that cultural misogyny.