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Posted by Foxy, Monday, 16 December 2024 6:36:23 AM
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‘Petrified’: Terrifying incident at family Christmas event
http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/armed-teens-arrested-after-clash-with-police-at-family-xmas-event/news-story/e9c3d2c5025ffc57659bb9dcd9e61b6b 'Police have arrested three teenage boys armed with machetes after clashing with authorities at a family Christmas event.' "Three machete-wielding teenagers have been arrested and released on bail after clashing with police during a carols by candlelight event in Melbourne. Police were called to Bayside Carols in Dendy Park in Brighton East on Tuesday about 8.30pm after reports a group of youths armed with machetes were fighting nearby." * 'released on bail' Should we put these kids in chains and send them to a work camp for troubled teens? Pay them fair wages, but take back half for their food, lodgings and access to GOOD counsel. They want to be big boys? Make them start acting like ones. Make them take responsibility for their actions regardless of their troubled upbringings Help them face up to their less than ideal childhoods. Here's another rule for that handbook Paul. The first was for parents, this one's for the kids. Teach them this: You are given 2 lives. 1. The life given to you by your parents (none of us have control over this life) 2. The life you make for yourself. - Don't let the life given to you by your parents, destroy the life you have to make for yourself. There you go Paul. If you put my two rules together, you have one that teaches parents to raise their kids better; And another that teaches kids to be more well grounded no matter their less than deal upbringings. - It's not rocket science, it doesn't have to be complicated - These 2 things would could have a huge impact on both the problems and the outcomes. You just need to devise a foolproof system that works. Based on the current outcomes, the social worker apologists may well be creating more harm than good. Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 16 December 2024 7:37:58 AM
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 16 December 2024 4:32:44 PM
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Hi AC,
I don't disagree that the problems with youth often stem from problems with the parents and the home environment. There's the rub, you can't tackle the youth problem and hope for success whilst ignoring the parenting problem. Having said that, society can't have people running around with "machetes" causing total mayhem, that's an immediate problem that has to be dealt with in the here and now. If a kid is at the "machete" stage its probably too late for handbooks, parenting advice, youth counselling etc etc. A Good kids life starts from day one, with good parents, a good home environment, good extended family, good schooling, good friends, an all round good environment. Unfortunately too many children start with a bad everything, which can only lead to a bad outcome. Agree? Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 5:29:04 AM
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I presented data given by the Australian Institute of Health
and Welfare. Foxy, Well, yes & no. Such Data is more often than not tabled in a form that favours the bureaudroids more than those they're supposed to be supporting. It never ever tells the actual facts which are that many women are the initial stirrers & it is their selfish desires & wants that send many men over the edge. It is then re-worded as domestic violence. It is never described as psychological violence towards men. A liitle balancing facts would help a lot more than googling for excuses to then be portrayed as men-wrong-doing ! Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 7:52:00 AM
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Data can't be ignored when there's so much of it
and is evidence based and verifiable. Facts will always prove us wrong . Still, as they say - bias is in the eyes of the beholder. All I can do is present the findings as given. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 8:43:19 AM
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I presented data given by the Australian Institute of Health
and Welfare. The given link presents their findings and research,
not mine.
I can't be held responsible for their findings. And as
pointed out in the link - every experience of family domestic
or sexual violence is very personal and different. As are
the causes of abuse and the various perpetrators.
The Institute makes it quite clear that there is currently no
national data on the proportion of Australians who have
perpetuated family domestic and sexual violence. However, we're
told that women are more likely to experience abuse by a
partner. For example, we're told
one in six women have experienced
physical or sexual violence by a current or former partner
while for men it's one in sixteen.
The link explains the many causes of
why abuse takes place and the various perpetrators
according to the Institute's findings.
It's an interesting read.