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All I can do is present the findings as given.
Foxy,
Perhaps you should seek seek information from less self-interest focussed sources
occasionally ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 2:50:19 PM
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Indyvidual,

I always seek information from a variety of sources.
Not just the ones you support and agree with your
version of things.

Try it some time.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 2:52:35 PM
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H Paul,
"Unfortunately too many children start with a bad everything, which can only lead to a bad outcome. Agree?"
- Yes a lot of them do, and don't have much of anything good.
Take this for example: today.

Girl, 15, behind deadly school shooting which killed student and teacher, officials say
http://www.9news.com.au/world/wisconsin-shooting-updates-five-dead-including-child-after-us-christian-school-shooting/22b9302f-93c4-4658-a05b-836d43a89fb6

More details and manifesto here:
http://x.com/Slatzism/status/1868860906265837854

- Her 6 page manifesto was titled "War Against Humanity."
- In her manifesto, she spoke about having extremely difficult relationship with her parents, who she referred to as "scum."
- She also claims her family didn't love her or want her, and expresses feeling like the "wrong child" of her family.
- She says she had planned to commit suicide a long time ago, but felt committing a shooting was “better for evolution rather than just one stupid boring suicide.”

Would my 2 rules have changed things?
- Parents that ensured her physical and emotional wellbeing?
- An understanding to 'Not let the live you're given ruin the life you make for yourself'

Certainly wouldn't have done any harm, and may very well have helped prevent a tragedy.
Poor kid needed help, but now other people had to pay a price too;
- Not a good outcome for anyone.

Why are they paying these so-called experts the big dollars if they're incapable of getting the outcomes we all want?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 4:31:11 PM
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Hi AC,

I don't disagree that the problems with youth often stem from problems with the parents and the home environment. There's the rub, you can't tackle the youth problem and hope for success whilst ignoring the parenting problem. Having said that, society can't have people running around with "machetes" causing total mayhem, that's an immediate problem that has to be dealt with in the here and now. If a kid is at the "machete" stage its probably too late for handbooks, parenting advice, youth counselling etc etc.

A Good kids life starts from day one, with good parents, a good home environment, good extended family, good schooling, good friends, an all round good environment. Unfortunately too many children start with a bad everything, which can only lead to a bad outcome. Agree?
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 5:29:04 AM

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=10516#366545

I think Paul1405 has just described classical fascism that is along with Marxism is derived from Hegelianism. Apparently fascism believes that the traditional social structures (such as the family, community, group identity) and defense of those structures are critical for a stable society. Marxism on the other hand believes that these structures need to be destroyed in the name of global equality centred on state control by "benevolent academics".

In a sense geopolitics has crystalized into a battle between theoretical academic Marxist's and practical business Libertarian's. Traditionalist's are relegated to the margins.

In a sense the battle between Marxism and Capitalism is the battle between Asia and Europe which Machiavelli discussed in The Prince when he compared Turkish Government of rotating officals with the French Governing aristocratic subsidiarity based system.

The Asian system is much more centralized and authoritarian than the European subsidiarity based system of government- even though Marxism often claims to be less authoritarian.

Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged makes specific reference to the childrens loss of respect of parents and authorities and society when society is de-identified and de-territorialized
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 8:37:32 PM
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When Marxism destroys identity it's difficult for parents to create a vision for the children and their place in society and the world, as well as the behavior that leads to success. If nothing matters it doesn't matter how the children behave. The Greeks talked about Logos (logic), Pathos (feeling), Ethos (morals), Telos (purpose). One of the tactics that Marxism uses to destroy identity is multiculturalism, but Libertarianism also uses multiculturalism because it believes that productivity and money is more important to survival than identity. There are strangely elements of Marxism that are similar to Libertarianism.

This is especially true when children from broken non-European societies are inserted into European schools.

One duty of a civilization is to give their young purpose
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 8:37:58 PM
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It's logical that children should be sociopathic or psychopathic when society is pathological or apathetic to them. Expect to see more of this emerging social archetype.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 8:43:21 PM
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