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Donald Trump's Victory is being hailed as a landslide.
How can a vote of 51% to 47.4% which is really close to equal be
construed as a landslide ?
What it really shows is that their electrol college is a nonsense.
The numbers in their both houses are quite close also.
There seems to be something wrong somewhere.
Posted by Bezza, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:10:50 PM
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A win is a win. It was not too close to call as the ABC predicted. What will happen to Rudd after the nasty things he said about Trump?
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 7 November 2024 6:05:07 AM
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Landslide silly expression. Who cares! The Republicans now have both houses, and there is hope for the future of the Western world.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 7 November 2024 6:23:18 AM
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At least parasitism has been put back notch & symbiosis forward a notch !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 7 November 2024 6:38:24 AM
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No time for excuses or mathematics the man has won so take an aspro and have a good lie down. The result will be the same no matter how you dress it up. Common sense has prevailed even revelatory.
The US now has a chance of putting some common sense back into motion and tidying up many loose ends.
Professional protesters need to take a break and may even enjoy a holiday in Cuba. You can only have so much disruption before it's time to make changes. Breakfast is calling.
Posted by doog, Thursday, 7 November 2024 7:01:55 AM
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The result has left the mainstream media, the pollsters and the Leftist activists looking stupid - again.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 7 November 2024 7:15:59 AM
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Maybe when Albo gets the misinformation bill through there could be a fact check showing that Kev never ever said anything insulting about Trump, not even a nasty tweet.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/donald-trump-is-the-most-destructive-president-in-history-us-ambassador-kevin-rudd-scrubs-antitrump-comments-from-social-media/news-story/1e83b8e01f3eae5664c68d96f6fa8b31
Posted by Fester, Thursday, 7 November 2024 10:21:47 AM
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Who is calling it a landslide? I haven't seen any such description.

A joyous, glorious victory yes. But not a landslide.

That Trump was abe to overcome all the factors arraigned against him and still achieve a sold victory is testimony to just how much the American people have bought into the MAGA promise.

What forces arraigned against him?

The legacy media.
Most of the new media - Google, Facebook.
The Democrats - of course.
The judiciary
The FBI
The Dept of Justice
The bureaucracy.
The overseas elites.
The big money - he was outspent 3 to 1.

Some of those will regret their bias.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 7 November 2024 10:57:00 AM
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Two attempts on his life. Vile things said about him. The legal system misused against him. Yet, he stuck it out, and will now be the next leader of the free world. He won fair and square. He didn't need the idiot Harris to help him out.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 7 November 2024 11:26:53 AM
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Trump's is the biggest electoral college landslide since Ronald Reagan in 1984 according to Professor James Allan. His popular vote win is the first for a Republican candidate since 2004. And, unlike our pathetic Liberal party, most of the wets have gone from the Republican party.

This is despite the Democrats outspending Trump 3-1, and the media overwhelmingly supporting Harris. Rich people go for the Left these days.

“This is the greatest US political comeback ever”.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 7 November 2024 10:21:32 PM
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I'm interested to see who will be in his administration.
Is he going to be stupid like last time, or will he come out guns blazing on Day 1 firing people.
He had a lot of people stab him in the back.
They tried to impeach him, labelled him a felon
FBI agents go through Melanias underwear drawer.
Will he be vindictive?

He's not going to be impeached again because the Republicans have the senate.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 8 November 2024 4:58:53 AM
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Will Trumps MAGA Republicans be the end of NATO, EU and the G7?

Germany is in chaos heading towards depression.
3 Volkswagen plants are closing down.
The only way Germany can save themselves is re-engage with Russia for cheap Russian energy.
How would this impact the EU as it currently stands?

Trump will transition to JD Vance in 4 years.
Will MAGA Republicans keep funding NATO?

And where does all this leave the G7 in comparison to BRICS

I'm going to do a Foxy here and say 'interesting times ahead'
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 8 November 2024 5:14:10 AM
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"Trump, Is it Really a Landslide ?"
- Well you tell me.

http://x.com/elonmusk/status/1854546155381617119
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 8 November 2024 6:08:29 AM
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Heard on the radio that the Democrats are wondering why the trump campaign was so successful. Are they really so out of touch that they can't see that they handed the election win to Trump simply with their performance in Govt ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 8 November 2024 6:30:09 AM
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Apart from his superior campaign, some of the other reasons Trump won are:

The economy
Borders
Weaponisation of the justice system
Censorship
Abortion
Transgenderism
Hoaxes about him
Election fraud in the past.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 8 November 2024 7:12:10 AM
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This is talking woke self-hatred to an extreme.

There is a fleshy, succulent garden plant called a Schlumbergera, misnamed but generally called zygo cactus. Its most commonly used name is Christmas cactus. But, some virtue-signalling garden writer has re-named it Holiday cactus to spare the feelings of Muslims.

Nothing to do with Trump and why he was elected, you might think; but it is. This sort of woke shite, fiddling with the English language because it might offend some other culture is part and parcel of the crap that is finally putting people against the loony Left.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 8 November 2024 7:41:06 AM
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Among the Democrat slurs about Trump was the ubiquitous Hitler one. Harris used it many times. However, one remark I saw this morning was, “If Trump really were the Nazi they claimed, surely the Democrats would have found a better candidate than Harris”.

But, of course, the Democrats have moved so far to the Left that nothing better was available.

The person who made that remark’ Strategic Analysis Australia's Peter Jennings’, had other things to say: we have strong ties with the US no matter who is President, and we are valued by America as a good ally (no mention of our failure to help out against the Houthis).

But President Trump might have something to say about the dangerous weakness of our defence. He likes other countries hanging onto America's coattails to do something to help themselves.

The US ambassador has politely suggested that Australia needs to pull its finger out.

We are too slow on AUKUS activities; we are not spending enough on defence; we are not recruiting; we have dumped a $7bn contract with America’s Lockheed Martin for secure defence satellite communications; we have a single operational submarine; we don't have enough surface vessels.

As Jennings says, the only growth in defence has been in the “numbers of generals and senior public servants”. Defence is in “managed decline”.

“Trump will want to know what we are doing about security right now” - not some time in the future.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 8 November 2024 10:20:44 AM
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I agree with most comment, Trump was going to win when we got more than
enough of the laughing jackass.
It became obvious, even to someone like me, that she did not have a clue.
I was hoping that Trump would win because I thought he might put Iran in its place.
Just read a report that he is going to put sanctions on its oil sales.
Even to the extent of sanctions on ports that accept Iranian oil.
That was the sort of thing I was hoping to see.
He boasted once he would end the Ukranian war in one day !
I think that might be a bridge too far.

It does seem that woke has had its day and the polling critics think
that men have revolted. Perhaps we can take a lesson ourselves.
Posted by Bezza, Friday, 8 November 2024 2:58:29 PM
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All the big mouth Leftists have been struck dumb by the Trump win.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 8 November 2024 4:37:56 PM
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I think that might be a bridge too far.
Bezza,
My guess is that this has already been worked out by now !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 9 November 2024 5:41:15 AM
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"Just read a report that he is going to put sanctions on its oil sales."
- If Trump actually wanted to save the U.S and the dollar he'd cut all sanctions and keep everyone from joining BRICS
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 9 November 2024 6:35:47 AM
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http://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1854717077837562314
President Trump released his plan to DISMANTLE the Deep State.
Now that he's President-elect, this is the most important three minutes of video on the internet right now
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 9 November 2024 10:36:21 AM
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Not according to Charles Richardson's blog (The world is not enough)
Trump's share of the popular vote is not astonishing or huge by any means.

Here are some figures he quotes from recent elections.

2004 - Bush won with 51.2% of the popular vote.
2008 - Obama won with 53.7% of the popular vote
2024 - Trump won with 51% of the popular vote (estimated as not all votes had been counted at the time he published.)

Of course, we all know the distortion of the Electoral College.
Posted by Aries54, Saturday, 9 November 2024 2:40:58 PM
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What is distortion each state has a number of representatives for each representative elected a point goes to the appropriate political party.
Trumps landslide is still in motion 10 counties in CA called today.
Trump is a perfect fit for the US now to pull back stupid rules that have infiltrated the US in recent years.
Posted by doog, Saturday, 9 November 2024 7:46:39 PM
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Here are some figures he quotes from recent elections.
Aries54,
Typical pointless Woke Left rant. Trump's in, let's put forward ideas for a better society here in Australia. Way more productive than perpetual loser wingeing. We need to find a way for people to cooperate by demanding they pull their weight. As I stated many times, we a symbiosis, we've had parasitism for too long !
Promote the mentality that makes people better citizens rather than the woeful bleating of students, arty-fartys & others who don't contribute.
Provide ideas instead of unwarranted criticism !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 10 November 2024 9:32:38 AM
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Indyvidual,

Students pay HECS fees. Studying at universities and
colleges is expensive and hard work. You have to stick
with it and see it through. And when they graduate they
become - doctors, nurses, health professionals, lawyers,
teachers,tradies, and many other professionals, who do contribute to
our society not only in taxes, but by the work they do. We would
be the poorer without them.

Take off your blinkers - and take a real look at our
communities. Finger-pointing does not achieve anything
productive.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 10 November 2024 10:53:22 AM
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One hundred UK Labour staffers, described by the reporter as "bright-eyed Starmtroopers", took themselves off to America to show the Democrats "how to win elections".

Fortunately the Trump's team objections to this foreign interference were ignored (of course), and the states that the Pommy Lefties chose to "help" all returned huge increases on the previous contest for Donald Trump. Delicious! Leftism really stinks in the US.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 10 November 2024 5:27:31 PM
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take a real look at our
communities.
Foxy,
I did, I do & will continue to do so hence my statements which are based on observations rather than copy-paste. You actually suggest that the many tens of thousands g Uni attendees are all useful & of benefit to society. Wrong, few fall into this category such as the professionals you refer to. The majority will soon be unemployed as the supermarket check-outs & MacDonald outlets opt for self service because these Uni Degree holders lack the merit to work there any longer.
If I had my way I'd make Uni education free for all who have the sense to study not because it is their "Right". Imagine all those useless bureaucrats being replaced by actual intelligent & common sense people. Imagine how smooth & effective the Public Service would function. Imagine all those getting into politics having merit instead of a bought degree ?
Imagine a society in which people are working in a field according to merit ? The positives of meritocracy are as yet unimaginable because people without merit occupy key positions & ruin progress at great cost & most accept this deplorable system. The Peter Principle must be abolished.
Uni education should focus on merit rather than income for incompetent degree holders. You et al are the ones who must remove the blinkers & take a real look at our communities !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 10 November 2024 6:49:23 PM
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Indyvidual,

We obviously live in different worlds. The world I live
in and the communities I observe - are different to
what you describe. People don't usually get jobs except
on capability. And they certainly don't retain their jobs
unless they perform well be it in a profession, trade, or
any where else.

I don't know the kind of people that you describe.
Perhaps, we look at things with our own biases,
based on our experiences?

After all, bias is in the eyes of the beholder. If you
deliberately go out of your way to look for specific
problems on any given issue, you're undoubtedly are
going to find them. But remember that people aren't
all the same - there
are individual differences and perspectives.

People don't all take the same perspective. They present
a variety of different perspectives - that's the way
life works.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 10 November 2024 10:02:29 PM
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Hey Indyvidual,
"Imagine all those useless bureaucrats being replaced by actual intelligent & common sense people."
- You know, I have to agree with you, but I see 2 problems.

Firstly the flaw in your argument is to assume that today's universities are actually capable of instilling intelligence and common sense, which may be debatable.

Secondly, whose going to do all the shite jobs?
- This may right into Albo's mass immigration plans.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 11 November 2024 6:29:49 AM
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People don't usually get jobs except
on capability.
Foxy,
The delusion of the year ! A BA is not an indicator of capability, it merely serves to perpetuate parasitism !

Secondly, whose going to do all the shite jobs?
Armchair Critic,
That's what a NMNS is for ! Once served, these jobs would get the recognition & pay they deserve !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 11 November 2024 7:36:42 AM
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Trump knows that there is an urgency to decouple the American economy from China and the need to use this as a way to weaken China and dissuade Beijing from military aggression. Dopes like Albanese think that trade brings peace.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 11 November 2024 7:40:28 AM
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After the US polls close, American author and cartoonist Scott Adams tweeted “Today is a contest between the people who think the news is real and those who know it is not.”

Only 32% of Americans now trust the mainstream media. The MSN lies, and people who rely on it remain ignorant; the ones who don't were able to see through the “Hitler” lies by using the options. Sensible, knowing people dropped the MSM long ago.

But, in America it is now being said that there are enough people still believing the “legacy media” that the shock of Trump's win will cause the “biggest mental health crisis” in America.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 11 November 2024 7:56:16 AM
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Indyvidual,

You say that a BA degree is not an indicator of capability.

The Australian Human Rights Commission points out that:

" Not everyone has the same experience of education. Not all
school, colleges, or universities are the same. Not all
students and families are the same either and not everyone
learns the same way".

They tell us that:

"Education is not just about institutions of learning.
People can learn and grow in many ways outside of the class
room. Travelling to new places, meeting different people,
or even watching a really great film, reading a book or even
engaging with different viewpoints on an online discussion
forum".

That's why it is important to have access to education that
is right for each of us as individuals so that we can reach
our full potential. A Bachelor of Arts degree is much more
than just filling your brain with facts. It's a process
of development, learning, and growing. Or trying to reach
our full potential. And just by completely the degree
shows that -
you do possess certain capabilities to have succeeded.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 11 November 2024 8:08:08 AM
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" Not everyone has the same experience of education. Not all
school, colleges, or universities are the same. Not all
students and families are the same either and not everyone
learns the same way".
Foxy,
That is one of the most self-serving copy-pastes you've come up with thus far !
Of course they'd say that, you don't expect them to say that they provide thousands of people with a BA to get them ready for a workforce that doesn't exist to make use of them which is what they actually do ?
Why do you think we have such mayhem due to incompetence in authority ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 11 November 2024 8:41:22 AM
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Indyvidual,

You're not making any sense.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 11 November 2024 9:13:35 AM
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Defence writer Daniel Depetris, pondering the effects of the Trump election on America's allies and US foreign policy refers back to 2016, when Trump's demands that countries reliant on America for their defence were sent scuttling to do more for themselves.

Depetris suggests that Israel will be given “free rein” to go after its enemies; and Ukraine should be “terrified” because Trump has always been alarmed by the amount of money “wasted” on that country.

The author has his ideas of what Trump ‘should’ do:

. Depriotise the Middle East. There are about 43,000 military personnel there, while the Biden plan for Israel has been “contradictory” - talking ‘ceasefires’ while continuing to send weapons to Israel. “Counterproductive”.

. 2,500 troops should be removed from Iraq. Leave it to the locals.

. “Rhetoric” on Ukraine needs to shift to action. Get “tough” with Zelenskyy and Putin.

. “Solidify” communications with China. Interdependence can't be breached.

Nothing on getting countries like Australia to pull their weight on defence, but given the way both our Ambassador Rudd and Albanese have spoken about Trump - and our sheer laziness about our own defence, we might not figure much in Trump's plans.

It would be good if some of those troops in the Middle East were moved to Northern Australia. Part of the suggestions of Stategic Analysis Australia is to invite the US to move 16,000 marines there.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 11 November 2024 9:43:08 AM
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Albanese says that he is looking forward to working with President Trump, but he would need to sack Rudd as well as apologising for his own past comments, and improve his manners and pay much more attention to helping ourselves defence-wise if we want continued help from the US.

Of course, if Labor is a one-term wonder, we will have much less to worry about.

Currently, we are virtually defenceless. We need America.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 11 November 2024 10:50:02 AM
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You're not making any sense.
Foxy,
I know you understand, you et al just can't afford to admit it.
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 11 November 2024 11:14:29 AM
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I don't understand why all you're interested in
is condemnation. It makes a conversation difficult
and depressing. For that reason - I'm out.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 11 November 2024 3:18:53 PM
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why all you're interested in is condemnation.
Foxy,
Why do you always state the wrong ? It's not condemnation at all, it's fact !
Ever heard of Thomas Sowell who said;
There have always been ignorant people, but they haven't always had college degrees to make them unaware of their ignorance. Some people imagine that they're well informed because they have memorised a whole galaxy of trendy dogmas & fashionable attitudes.
Surely that sounds very familiar to you ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 11 November 2024 11:48:49 PM
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Indyvidual,

You don't make sense. You don't seem to understand what
I posted earlier. Education is not just about filling your
brain with facts. It's a process of development, of learning
and reaching our full potential. Of learning skills for the
jobs we want, and trying to find solutions to different
problems.

I also pointed out to you that not everyone has the same
experience of education. That not all schools, colleges,
or universities are the same. That not all students and
families are the same and that not everyone learns the
same way.

I pointed out that people can learn and grow in many ways
outside of classrooms. Travelling to new places, meeting
different people, watching a really great film or reading a
book that makes you think. And so on.

That is why it is important for people to have access to
education that is right for each of us as individuals so that
we can reach our full potential.

In any case - I can only take responsibility for what I post.
Not for your lack of understanding of what I post.

No point in continuing this conversation.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 9:09:18 AM
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