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Does Sea Level Obey the UN Rules ?

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Can Sea Level Rise be Different in Different Parts of the Pacific ?
I see that the UN is getting involved in sea level rise problems in
South Pacific Islands.
Global Warming is getting the blame and other nations are getting the
blame for that.
So the UN thinks other nations must pay compensation.

Now all this is despite Auckland Universities Costal Institute saying
NO, Pacific Islands are getting bigger.
Also no one has pointed out that if the ocean is rising in say the
Solomon Islands then there must be a very strong current running
towards Australia as that would be downhill all the way.
Another solution is that Islands are sinking since the Aukland Uni survey.
About the only conclusion possible is that this is another UN Con !
Posted by Bezz, Tuesday, 27 August 2024 1:11:41 PM
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Rise in sea level is attributable to displacement both, naturally & man-made. Some Islands do grow however, on average they subside with additional displacement. There are 20 or perhaps even more billion tonnes of shipping that cause sea level to rise by a few mm. It may or may not have been investigated or known but the extraction of oil & gas could possibly absorb some water volume.
Global Warming i.e. melting glaciers causes insignificant rise in sea level as none of the hundreds of years old tide marks around the World are inundated. At least I've never read of any. Hysterics & the exploitation of hysterics by integrity-devoid Academia cause imagined rise in sea level.
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 9:04:57 AM
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Seas have been rising since the end of the last ice age. There are many a Roman ruin sitting under 2 meters of water, gobbled up by the rising seas. Of course the zealots say its all caused by CO2 but there weren't all that many SUV's in Roman times - probably caused by burning Christians.

Most Pacific Islands are coral outcrops and they rise with the rising seas. So places like Tuvalu are in fact gaining in size as the seas rise. But they don't want that to be true and therefore the evidence for that is rarely mentioned.

Still who can blame them - its all part of the cargo cult mentality that these people have been taught for the past 10 generations. Ask for handouts and complain that what's given isn't enough. The fact is that, even if CO2 is causing them to sink, Australia can do precisely nothing about it. If we stopped burning everything tomorrow the difference in sea levels by 2100 would be so small as to immeasurable.

If they want to complain about sea level rise and want to blame it on CO2, go talk to the Chinese.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 28 August 2024 4:38:41 PM
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Land subsidence is always overlooked too !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 29 August 2024 4:07:31 PM
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mhaze,

The rate of sea level rise in the past century has been significantly faster than the average since the last ice age.

Claiming that Roman ruins are underwater because of the gradual sea level rise since the last ice age is daft. It ignores the acceleration in sea level rise caused by the warming over the last 100 years. The Roman ruins now underwater is more a result of land subsidence and tectonic activity.

http://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-02954-1
http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/?intent=121

Some islands gain land in some areas due to sediment deposition and others are losing land due to erosion, storm surges, and the rise in sea levels outpacing coral growth. Tuvalu is indeed facing serious threats from rising seas, and the evidence of land loss and increased flooding is well-documented.

http://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-02954-1

Of course immediate action by one country alone won't stop sea level rise, but coordinated global efforts can slow the rate of increase and mitigate the worst effects. The claim that stopping CO2 emissions would have an "immeasurable" effect by 2100 is incorrect.

http://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate2923

Measurements show that global sea levels have risen by approximately 21–24 centimetres since 1880. A third of that rise has occurred in just the last 25 years.

http://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/clim/22/10/2008jcli2554.1.xml

Blaming China is defeatist and ignores the fact that climate change requires global solutions. China’s heavy investing in renewable energy and electric vehicles shows that they are positioning themselves to dominate the green economy, anyway. So, we risk economic stagnation and missed opportunities if we lag behind.

http://wires.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wcc.427

There are no hysterics. The rise is a measurable and observable phenomenon corroborated by satellite data, tide gauges, and hundreds of field studies.

Or is that just what "they" WANT you to believe?
Posted by John Daysh, Friday, 30 August 2024 8:35:43 AM
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People are the Planet's worst enemy, especially those stupid selfish who always want others to do what they themselves should be doing !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 30 August 2024 9:31:54 AM
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