Hi Foxy,

Unfortunately many of the uneducated like Indy don't see the value of a decent education, never having one themselves. Scornful and specious of those with a greater knowledge than he, poor Indy has spent a lifetime dependent on the goodwill of others, the long suffering taxpayer mostly, as he survived the better part of his adult life on unemployment benefits, telling us once that he lost his menial public service position in 72 when Gough came to power, only through his own incompetence, and now in his twilight years reliant on generous aged welfare. Today he is being looked after by decent folk such as ourselves as we share the bounty of our labour through education with the unfortunate Indy.

Hi Paul,

Talking about the elderly?

Did you know that there's more money being spent on
boobjobs and viagra then on Alzheimers research, which
means by 2040 the elderly will have perky boobs,
stiff willies and not idea why.

Hi Indyvidual,

Come on admit it, we've all at some time
pushed doors that said pull.

You've got to have a sense of humour in life.

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Dear ttbn,

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You wrote :

« The Liberal Party has been in a nose dive since Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison. Dutton … has to convince people who have thrown his party aside because of Turnbull and Morrison that he is not like them, and that he will lick the party back into shape. »
.

Good point, ttbn. That prompted me to find out exactly how the federal Liberal Party defines its objectives.

Among those outlined in the party’s Federal Constitution, I was surprised to find the following :

« The objectives of the Party are to have an Australian nation :

(a) dedicated to political liberty and the freedom and dignity of man

(b) safe from external aggression and living in the closest communion with fellow members of the Commonwealth, playing its part in a world security order which maintains the necessary force to defend peace »
.

There is no indication of the Liberal Party being “dedicated to political liberty and the freedom and dignity of [women]”.

Nor is there any indication of it being concerned with keeping Australians “safe from [internal] aggression and living in the closest communion with fellow members of the Commonwealth …”.

Neither of these two declared objectives corresponds to my understanding of the term “liberal”, i.e., free, generous, open-minded, with the belief that government should be active in supporting social and political change.

But, it does, at least, correlate with your pathological obsession with Foxy whom you fear might be a woman and whose opposing political opinions systematically cause you so much distress.

Despite that, I still have difficulty understanding how somebody like you, ttbn, who professes to be a staunch advocate of “liberal politics”, can be so intolerant and so authoritarian so often.

It seems incompatible to me.

If you have some explanation to offer, I would be quite interested in discovering it.

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Hi BP,

Those of the political extreme will claim to advocate for "freedom and democracy" and the rights of the individual. When assuming power however they find it "necessary" to progressively introduce restrictive laws as they fight to protect citizens from those disloyal elements who seek to destroy the perfect state that they and only they, aspire to build for the greater good of the majority.

That's why these extremists are always pointing to "undesirables" within society, groups that are different, basically disloyal groups unlike themselves. ttbn is a perfect example of such a person. A few years back ttbn was on this forum advocating for an extreme political party calling itself The Australian Conservative Party, led by a radical politician. Fortunately the crazies failed to gain traction with voters, scoring less than half a percent of the popular vote, it then promptly disappeared up its own ahole, leaving the truly committed like poor old ttbn out in the cold, and a little bit poorer for the experience. Now he's left to peddle his nonsense on this little forum.

Now that the pointless stuff about whether or not Dutton is a “racist” or just called that by numbskulls who have never emerged from their primary school teasing and bullying stage; and the fact what he might think about foreigners and immigrants is irrelevant when all he was doing was expressing concern for Australia's security, what does he need to do to become our next Prime Minister?

He has to make changes to the Liberal Party. Actually, not changes, just get the party back to what it was, and what it was meant to be: a right-leaning party and bulwark against extreme Socialists like Albanese and the shockingly degraded Labor Party.

The Liberals lost support at the last election because they:

. Had three underwhelming leaders in quick succession
. They lumbered us with the Paris Fiasco and Net Zero
. Spent up big (bigger than the Big Governments they are supposed to despise
. Increased taxes ditto
. Upped immigration despite public opinion
. Encouraged universities to become immigration agents
. Did nothing to curb the ABC or sell it off. Actually increased its budget
. Did little to balance the courts with a few conservative judges
. Let the HRC rip e.g 18c
. Crushed our liberties during Covid.
. Created the national “cabinet” to hide behind the states when liberties were removed
. Locked us down as though we were Chinese in China.
. Supported vaccine mandates, but left it to employers to enforce
. Closed schools, putting kids behind the 8 ball for ever
. Said nothing about police violence during Covid
. Dilly dallied about the Voice when it was obviously racist nonsense at start
. Add your own ….

A waste of 9 years right up to the election that they doomed themselves to lose.

I think that it will be a long time before erstwhile Liberal supporters will forget that.

Peter Dutton might be able to make the changes. But the party machine that boots conservative Senators off the ticket, and makes pre-elections along factional lines will make it bloody hard for him.

I believe that Foxy advocates several of the principles in my quick list of what I consider as Marxist beliefs.

This is interesting...

These articles talk about what could be called Cultural Marxism.
It talks about Gramsci's belief (also others) that the institutions are a representation of Cultural Hegemony by the "Ruling Class" to induce a state of "False Consciousness" on the people. He further implies that this Cultural Hegemony needs to be changed using inculcation by Marxist's to reflect "reality".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony#German_student_movement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_march_through_the_institutions

Yet the Woke Marxist's claim that Cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory