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Peter Dutton Says He Is Not Racist.
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Posted by Foxy, Friday, 23 August 2024 11:26:34 AM
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"There are so many Jews who agree with Miriam world wide and
including many who are protesting in Israel." Yes there are...world-wide. But the ones actually in Israel, the ones attacked on 7/10, the ones who had to abandon house and home in Northern Israel because of rockets coming from Lebanon, the ones who live constantly in the knowledge that, given the chance their enemies would, and want to, wipe them from the face of the earth....those ones who don't have the luxury of pontificating from afar, they are overwhelming supportive of ensuring 7/10 never happens again. http://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/05/30/israeli-views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/ (73% of Israelis say Israel’s military response against Hamas in Gaza has been about right, and/or not gone far enough) (and that includes Arab-Israelis). __________________________________________________________________ "Amnesty International says:" By all means, let's listen to what Amnesty tells us we are obligated to do!! You know, I searched in vain for articles where Amnesty told Jordan what it should do give refuge to Gazans . I searched in vain for articles where Amnesty told Qatar what it should do give refuge to Gazans. I searched in vain for articles where Amnesty told Egypt what it should do give refuge to Gazans. Or Saudi Arabia. Or Iran. Or Russia. Or other Mohammedan nations. What's Indonesia doing? What's Pakistan doing? Afghanistan? Malaysia? Nope, it seems that Amnesty thinks only western nations have an obligation to help Gazans escape the chaos they themselves created. Posted by mhaze, Friday, 23 August 2024 11:42:29 AM
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Foxy,
Thanks for the link. I would love to agree wholeheartedly with Miriam Margolyes there, but can’t bring myself to. The issue is way more complex than how she portrays it. The result of Israel’s actions in Gaza are tragic, but they are a response to an existential threat posed by Hamas, who openly call for Israel's destruction and engage in acts of terrorism targeting Israeli civilians. The loss of civilian life is an unfortunate but inevitable consequence of warfare, especially when combatants deliberately embed themselves within the civilian population as Hamas do. Her comparison of Israel's actions to those of Nazi Germany (by reference to Hitler) is inappropriate and historically inaccurate. Her comparison trivialises the Holocaust and only serves to demonise. Without addressing their security concerns first, a ceasefire would leave Israel vulnerable to further attacks. If Hamas were to stop attacking Israel, disarm, and quit using civilian areas for military purposes, it would remove Israel's justification for military action. The ball is in Hamas’s court. Posted by John Daysh, Friday, 23 August 2024 11:48:16 AM
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You know there's another reason why Gazans, particularly the female Gazans, might want to get the hell outta there ... to escape the tender mercies of the UN agencies.
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2024/07/un-report-warns-of-looming-epidemic-of.html http://psea.interagencystandingcommittee.org/sites/default/files/2024-07/OPT%20Risk%20Identification%20Report.pdf Rape and sexual exploitation by the UN and other aid agencies of vulnerable Gazan mothers and girls. By all means, let's ask these aid agencies and the UN about the moral response to the problem!! </sarc> Posted by mhaze, Friday, 23 August 2024 11:51:52 AM
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Hi John Daysh,
Prof. Ilan Pappe points out that: "Colonized people even under the United Nations Charter have the right to struggle for their liberation, even with an army, and the successful ending to such a struggle lies in the creation of a democratic state that includes all of its inhabitants." A discussion of the future with both sides being willing to make concessions would help to bring peace to Israel and Palestine. Unfortunately neither side appears to be willing to make any concessions - and the future looks bleak. For Australia - the choice of how it will fulfill its international obligations towards accepting Palestinian refugees remains a controversial and sensitive issue that it will have to deal with. Hopefully sooner rather than later. The crisis is severe. And can't be ignored much longer. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 23 August 2024 1:24:21 PM
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Jews/Israelis have their left wing twits also. And the Left wing Guardian is more than happy to publish their comments. So what! What a foul-mouthed old lesbian woman thinks is neither here nor there. We have our own Lefty Israeli on OLO.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 23 August 2024 1:30:09 PM
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" Since the 7th October 2023, Israel has killed 40,000
Palestinians including 14,000 children with 92,000
injured and thousands buried under rubble. 1.7 million
Palestinians endure relentless bombardment, displacement,
and starvation used as a weapon of war."
"Israel has continued to flagrantly violate international
law resulting in civilians fleeing a humanitarian catastrophe
unlike anything we have seen in recent history."
" Despite the severity of this crisis, Palestinians are
offered only tourist visas, leaving them without rights and
entirely dependent on their families or communities until they
apply for a Bridging Visa E. Many of these
visas are due to expire which causes increased distress and
anxiety within the communities who are seeking permanent
protection for their family."
"According to the Department of Home Affairs over 7,000 visas
have been rejected and only 2,922 visas approved. Of those only
1,300 of women, men, and children have safely arrived in
Australia."
And of course Australia continues to support Israel - who
continues to claim victimhood status and considers any
criticism of its policies as being antisemitic.