Tell me Foxy,
When will the United States become a real democracy?

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Dear Banjo,

You inspired me to re-write the "poem."

Thank you.

I'm asked :

"When will the US become a real democracy?

When Trump loses the election.

I have to say it's kind of amusing watching people talk out of both sides of their mouth.
Or it would be, if it wasn't such a serious issue.

So you're saying if the majority support Trump, then that's not democracy?

It's kind of like watching a caught fish flop around on a beach.

We love democracy!
- But only if the person we support wins.

It's kind of sad you know watching the western world become so polarised, divisive and slowly ripped apart.

Do you want to know who's to blame?
All of you, and none of you.

All of you because you all support your respective sides, all scream support for democracy - but all are completely intolerant of the other, and find an outcome that is not in our respective favour completely unacceptable.
(In remember you started a thread on tolerance)
And none of you, because all these problems and issues foistered upon us are little more than someone elses sick little game to have us all fighting amongst ourselves.

It's like the devil is just sitting back laughing singing and dancing in joy, if he exists.

Then you have Albo and Dutton on TV saying if anyone criticises government we must dob them in to the Federal Police and ASIO.
- Wake up you foolish leaders, everyones criticising.

What a bloody mess we've found ourselves in.
There's no way out either, we're all in it together for the ride.
Just as our kids and grandkids will inherit this mess.

Ordo Ab Chao.

Soon we'll all be the Palestinians.

The strength of Australia's democracy lies in our free
and fair elections. In our system.

We have secret ballots designed to stop the intimidation
of voters. We have compulsory voting ensuring everyone votes,
not just the partisan or the outraged. We have the
Australian Electoral Commission to draw and redraw electoral
boundaries so they are representative and fair and to recruit
100,000 Australians to run polling booths, where everyone's
ballot papers and voting methods are consistent across the
country.

The Australian Electoral Commission's vote counting is
scrutinised by parties and candidates to ensure the integrity
of the count is transparent and verifiable. No fraud here.

Contrast this to the US where free and fair elections are
polluted and diminished not only by outrageous
gerrymandering but by laws and regulations designed to
deliberately disenfranchise voters.

Where a former US president lied to the public about election
results and where a first past the post system means many votes are wasted.

There's much more at the following:

http://australiainstitute.org.au/post/australias-democracy-isnt-perfect-but-many-of-you-just-changed-the-country/

Sounds like your upset that politicians lie Foxy
- Wasn't there a time when that was just common knowledge?

Did I tell you all the story about how when I was little QLD Premier Peter Beattie promised there would only be tolls on Brisbane's Gateway Bridge for a couple of years until it was paid off?
That was in 1986, 39 years ago, and we're still paying tolls today and most likely will be forever.
That was when I first realised that politicians are liars.