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The great renewable energy paradox

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List of nuclear and radiation fatalities by country
Individual disasters, incidents and sites
Lists by country
• 2024 Nuclear incident at Khabarovsk, Russia
• 2022-2023 Monticello Nuclear Generating Plant leak
• 2019 Radiation release during explosion and fire at Russian nuclear missile test site
• 2017 Airborne radioactivity increase in Europe in autumn 2017
• 2011 Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster
• 2001 Instituto Oncologico Nacional radiotherapy accident
• 2000 Samut Prakan radiation accident, Thailand.[3]
• 1999 and 1997 Tokaimura nuclear accidents
• 1996 San Juan de Dios radiotherapy accident
• 1994 Theft of radioactive material in Tammiku, Estonia.[4]
• 1993 Tomsk-7 accident at the Reprocessing Complex in Seversk, Russia, when a tank exploded while being cleaned with nitric acid. The explosion released a cloud of radioactive gas (INES level 4).[5]
• 1990 Clinic of Zaragoza radiotherapy accident
• 1987 Goiβnia accident
• 1986 Chernobyl disaster and Effects of the Chernobyl disaster
• 1985 Explosion during refuelling of the K-431 (formerly K-31) submarine
• 1982 Lost radiation source in Baku, Azerbaijan, USSR.[6]
• 1980 Houston radiotherapy accident.[6][7]
• 1979 Church Rock uranium mill spill
• 1979 Three Mile Island accident and Three Mile Island accident health effects
• 1974-1976 Columbus radiotherapy accident.[6][7]
• 1969 Lucens reactor
• 1968 Thule B-52 crash
• 1966 Palomares B-52 crash
• 1964 SNAP 9a satellite releases plutonium over the planet earth, an estimated 6300GBq or 2100 person-Sv of radiation was released.
• 1962 Thor missile launch failures during nuclear weapons testing at Johnston Atoll under Operation Fishbowl
• 1961 SL-1 nuclear meltdown
• 1961 K-19 nuclear accident
• 1959 SRE partial nuclear meltdown at Santa Susana Field Laboratory
• 1958 Mailuu-Suu tailings dam failure
• 1957 Kyshtym disaster
• 1957 Windscale fire
• 1957 Operation Plumbbob
• 1954 Totskoye nuclear exercise
• 1950 Desert Rock exercises
• Bikini Atoll
• Hanford Site
• Rocky Flats Plant, see also radioactive contamination from the Rocky Flats Plant
• Techa River
• Pollution of Lake Karachay
Posted by doog, Saturday, 10 August 2024 3:45:47 PM
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How much does a 300 MW nuclear reactor cost?
SMR nuclear projects could provide an option in construction costs of as low as $3,000 per kW. Thus, a 300-MW project might cost $900 million, as opposed to conventional, massive new nuclear projects, such as Vogtle or Sizewell C in the UK, costing $30 billion or a ballpark estimate of $9,000 per kW
The CNP-300 is a pressurized water nuclear reactor developed by the China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC).
It is China's first domestic commercial nuclear reactor design, with development beginning in the 1970s based on a nuclear submarine reactor design
The unit began operation in 2000. Another unit was completed in 2011
You mean it took 30 years to make it work.
Posted by doog, Saturday, 10 August 2024 4:20:08 PM
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Ask yourself why the Albo cult wants you to lie to people.

"You mean it took 30 years to make it work."

No, operating since the early 1990s.

"The first CNP-300 unit started operations in Qinshan Nuclear Power Plant in 1991.[1]

The CNP-300 was the first Chinese nuclear reactor to be exported, with the installation of the first unit at Chashma Nuclear Power Plant in Pakistan.[4] The unit began operation in 2000. Another unit was completed in 2011 and two more units began operation in 2016 and 2017 at the same plant. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNP-300

And you might also like to know that nuclear power has the lowest mortality rate per terawatt hour of power generation, so if you are worried about the danger to human life you should support nuclear. If your main concern is protecting the environment and stopping the murder of koalas, you should definitely support nuclear.

https://www.engineering.com/whats-the-death-toll-of-nuclear-vs-other-energy-sources/

Labor used to be about protecting the rights of the little guy. Now it is about protecting the interests of its rich mates, killing koalas and desecrating our natural heritage. RIP
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 10 August 2024 8:24:37 PM
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Hi AC,

Yes, I miss AlanB too. I very much enjoyed his optimism that a bright future was possible for all.

Now I wouldn't be so rude as to try and convince you of anything, but I have just had a lot fun watching this piece on Russian state sponsored pulp fiction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCI6es9G0oo

Truth is stranger than fiction they say.

Cheers
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 10 August 2024 8:59:52 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_naval_reactors#Power_plants

"Reactor sizes range up to ~500 MWt (about 165 MWe) in the larger submarines and surface ships. The French Rubis-class submarines have a 48 MW reactor that needs no refueling for 30 years."
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 11 August 2024 1:18:53 AM
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John,

"Mechanisms like contracts for difference (CFDs) and capacity markets are designed to stabilise these returns, ensuring that renewable projects can be financed and remain viable despite price fluctuations."

What you mean is that the government will bankroll the transition, making investment more attractive by putting most of the cost and risk on the taxpayers. This approach will drive inflation and debt with no guarantee of a viable grid.

https://ieefa.org/resources/energising-australias-green-bank

"Yes, it’s expensive and complex right now, but that’s what happens when you’re building something new and innovative. The long-term trend is moving toward lower costs and more reliable energy as technology improves and economies of scale are realised."

It is totally irresponsible to be building an untested, highly complicated and massively expensive ($1.5 trillion investment required to achieve 2030 target) system on a national scale. Saying how things might be in the future makes no difference to the costs and complexities of the present. Further, such a claim ignores the possibility of technical innovation and cost reduction for competing technologies. As is being and has been demonstrated around the world, nuclear power can provide dispatchable energy at much lower cost than wind and solar.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 11 August 2024 7:17:30 AM
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