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My Immediate Observations of Trump Shooting

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First thing I noticed lots of people in background were looking to their right.
First reports said shooter was on roof of nearby building.
When it was confirmed it was a graze of ear, then I thought were did
the bullet then go.
An interview of a man who had blood on his shirt who appears works in
a hospital said someone was hit in head and mentioned grey matter.
They gave him CPR. He might be the attendee who is reported dead.
Posted by Bezza, Sunday, 14 July 2024 4:52:19 PM
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It was like a pantomime or wrestling spectacle where members of the crowd shout and gestculate wildly, pointing out the bad guy up to no good, only to be ignored for their efforts. I can't help wondering if it might have been different if the perpetrator had looked like Travis Bickle.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 14 July 2024 9:09:17 PM
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Violence in the worlds most violent society raises its ugly head again, to be expected. Unfortunately nothing out of the normal. USA July 13th/14th gun violence 4 dead, 22 injured.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 14 July 2024 9:26:12 PM
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A 20 year old shooter & apparently a registered member of the republican Party. It's going to be interesting how this will be exploited by the Democrat orientated outfits !
I just hope all sides will work towards high-powered weapons being taken off the shelves !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 14 July 2024 10:03:52 PM
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https://youtu.be/BUJqx3MSpw8?si=-DLpQONN_7vaLIRr
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 14 July 2024 10:17:43 PM
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Perhaps the shooter wouldn't have been able to get close enough if he wasn't a nominal card carrying Republican Party registered voter. The people carrying the high powered sniper weapons were the Secret Service. The civilian verson of the AR15 though a relative of the military version is accurate to about 300 metres from memory, any big game hunting weapon would presumably be able to do a similar job. Trump is probably a gun owner.

I don't think with the biased politicised Woke/ Marxist dominated US Institutions that the law enforcement community can be trusted any more than the average citizen. As they say guns don't kill people, people kill people. Most gun owners and organisations are very responsible and are very conscious of gun safety. Power always needs to be balanced between the governments and the people, and this includes access to the means of physical force- otherwise slavery results.

There have been several people on the Woke/ Marxist dominated media seemingly inciting assassination of Trump in recent days.

This may not be over- there may be other attempts leading up to the election and perhaps with multiple shooters next time. The Democrats need to wind back the rhetoric if they want to reduce their complicity.

As Nigel Farage said this seems an inevitable result of Marxist/ Woke actions.

In the meantime I hope that the Marxist/ Woke at least give lip service to the victims here.

I think Trump is to be admired for his courage- some have said "He is a Warrior President!".
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 15 July 2024 1:22:23 AM
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Hopefully they will be talking about this event for the next forty three years. Sadly this appears to be a continuation of the violence of BLM and COVID.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 15 July 2024 1:41:32 AM
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BETHEL PARK, Pennsylvania, July 14 (Reuters) - Federal law enforcement authorities scrutinized the background of Thomas Matthew Crooks on Sunday in a search for what drove the 20-year-old gunman to open fire on former U.S. President Donald Trump at a campaign rally in western Pennsylvania.
Crooks, identified by the FBI as the suspected gunman in the assassination attempt, was shot and killed by the Secret Service seconds after he allegedly fired shots toward a stage where Trump was speaking on Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania. One rally attendee, a 50-year-old man identified as Corey Comperatore, died and two other spectators were critically injured. Trump was shot in the right ear.
A resident of Bethel Park, about an hour away from where the shooting occurred, Crooks was a registered Republican who would have been eligible to cast his first presidential vote in the Nov. 5 election in which Trump is challenging President Joe Biden. Public records show his father is a registered Republican and mother a registered Democrat.
Federal Election Commission filings show Crooks appears to have made a small $15 donation several years ago to a political action committee called ActBlue that raises money for left-leaning and Democratic politicians. The donation was earmarked for the Progressive Turnout Project, a national group that rallies Democrats to vote. The groups did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment.
Crooks' parents could not immediately be reached for comment by Reuters. His father, Matthew Crooks, 53, told CNN that he was trying to figure out what happened and would wait until he talked to law enforcement before speaking about his son.
Secret Service agents fatally shot the suspect, the agency said, after he opened fire from the roof of a building about 150 yards (140 meters) from the stage where Trump was addressing supporters. An AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle used in the shooting was recovered near his body, according to sources.
The firearm was legally purchased by the suspect's father, ABC and the Wall Street Journal reported, citing sources. Bomb-making materials were found in the suspect's car, U.S. media outlets reported, citing sources.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 15 July 2024 4:44:09 AM
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'SUPER SMART'
In the family's hometown, one of Thomas Crooks's former classmates at Bethel Park High School said the suspect did not show any particular interest in politics. Rather, his interests centered on building computers and playing games, the 20-year-old classmate, who asked not to be identified, said in an interview.
Crooks often kept to himself, the classmate said, and politics never came up. Their conversations revolved around school, the classmate said.
"He was super smart. That's what really kind of threw me off was, this was, like, a really, really smart kid, like he excelled," the classmate said. "Nothing crazy ever came up in any conversation."
The classmate added that he had not seen or heard from Crooks since the suspect graduated in 2022.
While in school, Crooks received a $500 "star award" from the National Math and Science Initiative, according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review newspaper.

http://www.reuters.com/world/us/heres-what-we-know-about-thomas-matthew-crooks-suspected-trump-rally-shooter-2024-07-14/
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 15 July 2024 4:45:57 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Math_and_Science_Initiative
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 15 July 2024 9:48:43 AM
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I'm not confident that those coming out of the contemporary US education system given the dominant wokeness can be qualified as "super smart". Though it probably says something about those capable of succeeding in such a system. It seems that the US education system may have had something to do with the shooters radicalization. It's very sad for the parents, bringing up their child with good principles, only to potentially have the schools take them away.

I suspect that male teachers have lost interest in teaching for a number of reasons including a male toxic environment and so there is a lack of balance in schools.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 15 July 2024 9:56:38 AM
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"He might be the attendee who is reported dead."

He was. His name is Corey Comperatore. Let's hope his name is mentioned more and remembered more than the vile shooter.

He died protecting his family, laying on top of them to shield them from the shots.

This is statement from his daughter. There is great evil in the world but there is also unsurpassed bravery and virtue.

http://x.com/TaylerUSA/status/1812507778335887390/photo/2

___________________________________________________________________

This is the statement from Melania Trump. A class act among the muck that is US politics.

http://x.com/MELANIATRUMP/status/1812492817068945437/photo/1
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 15 July 2024 9:59:53 AM
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Hi Bezza,

Thanks for this discussion.

Many of us are still in a state of shock. Many of us may not
have approved of this man and his unsuitability for being
elected as the leader of the super power that is the US. But
no one of sound mind - would want the man dead. It was a
shocking incident. With many questions still unanswered.

Some people have expressed feelings that what goes on in the
US should not concern us in Australia. That is a very narrow
and simplistic view. Of course what happens in the US should
be of concern to us. Whether we like it or not - our security
is very much dependent on the US. Therefore what happens in
that country should be of concern.

Former US President Donald Trump had a very close call.
He's an extremely lucky man. What prompted this 20 year
old Registered Republican voter to take this dire action
we still don't know. There are many conjectures at present.
Perhaps we shall never know.

The US society appears to be a violent, divisive one, and what
is badly needed is calm and the toning down of language. Not
incitement and the creation of even more divisions.

The former US President has left for the Republican Convention.
Hopefully, he will tone down his language and stop inciting people
to "Fight." In the meantime US President Biden has ordered stronger
security for the Republican Convention. Hopefully, nothing bad
will happen. Hopefully also that whoever wins the US Presidential
Election - will be able to accept the results and will attend the
Inauguration in January as a way of unification. A way of setting
an example to all sides of politics - which is what America so
badly needs.

Which the world needs.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 July 2024 10:06:36 AM
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Interesting that Foxy managed to blame the victim here. Surely she is more self reflecting than that.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 15 July 2024 10:15:28 AM
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Surely she is more self reflecting than that.
Canem Malum,
Doubt it very much !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 15 July 2024 10:24:49 AM
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Talking about self-reflection?

There are many American and Australian politicians, as well
as voters on both sides of politics who from the news sources
covering the attack on former US President Trump all agree
that Trump has to accept at least some responsibility for what
happened to him.

When you provoke and incite people by the language you use.
When you tell them to "Fight, Fight, Fight!" "Fight like hell,
or you won't have a country anymore!" You can't claim victim
status when you're taken seriously. You reap what you sow.

And, advising a possible future country's leader to tone
it down. To unite not divide the country - is simply trying to
get the possible future leader to be self-reflective and not
encourage more victimhood for themselves and for others.

Although people who have worked with, and know Trump well,
tell us this is not likely to happen.

Hopefully they're wrong.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 July 2024 11:24:59 AM
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Oh Foxy, you're such a fool...

Here's a small snippet of Democrats calling for violence against Trump..

http://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1812325538620420349

Trump is an existential threat to the power, wealth and future control of the Democrat machine and those who have profited mightily from its control of the media and the US treasury. They wanted him taken out. The violence is all from one side.

But the same fools who fell, for 4 long years, for the media's and Democrats' claims that Biden was mentally fit for the job, will fall for the claims that Trump caused the violence. They will never learn because they are incapable of learning.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 15 July 2024 11:39:39 AM
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mhaze,

I may be such a fool but I'm an optimistic one.

I firmly believe that we are capable of learning.

So let's hope for good outcomes - both of us.
Let's try to unite not divide amongst ourselves.

That much we surely can do?
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 July 2024 11:48:51 AM
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Yes mhaze- the key to creating a criminal empire seems to get all of the hierarchy to be complicit in the crime- so all have a vested interest in the kleptocracy. Then the powerful will rise up simultaneously to defend their interest in order to keep their position in the hierarchy. If the hierarchy is legitimate the public will rise up to protect the hierarchy from threats.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 15 July 2024 3:24:39 PM
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UAP Senator, Ralph Babet, suggests that the Trump attempted assassination was not just the work of one person. “ … an attempt on the life of former President Donald Trump has been brewing for years”.

Babet writes that, “The Democrats, the left-wing media, and Woke Hollywood celebrities have been agitating for years for Trump to be killed.”

. Two weeks ago an actor called for Trump to be killed
. Trump has been described by the Left as a Hitler who needs to be “taken out”
. Joe Biden said a couple of weeks ago that a bullseye needed to be put on Trump
. Democrats continually described Trump as a “threat to democracy, a threat to the republic, a threat to America, and a fascist”. Vilified him for years
. Called Trump a dictator who would remove their freedoms
. One of the most evil men the world has seen

The actual killer is dead. But all the Trump haters need to be dealt with.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 15 July 2024 3:52:40 PM
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We have a minority of extreme nut jobs associated with politics in Australia. We know how a leading figure from the far right One Nation Party, Steve Dickson, tried to secure millions of dollars from American pro-gun groups in order to win power in Australia, Dickson told a pro-gun American official that Australia's firearms laws were “poison” and said One Nation would “kill” them. There is an obvious danger from this type of nut job on the right, and indeed those on the far left as well.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 15 July 2024 4:19:05 PM
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Obviously the establishment security branches are tucked in behind the heat tiles for re-entry into another four years of a Democrat dictatorship.

Members of the crowd witnessed the shooter walking between buildings carrying a rifle (long arm). There were photos of the shooter laying in the prone position prior to the shooting.
Police were advised of the sighting minutes before shots were fired by the shooter.

The Police snipers were observed to be aiming at the shooter prior to the salvo released towards Trump. Only after which the snipers shot the offender dead.

Here is another mystery coming up to match the grassy knoll; another fifty years of endless BS and huge spends of taxpayer money to prove the Democrats and their control of the secret services , free of guilt.

The shooter was also known to be associated with ANTIFA and some other radical left wing groups; but it only matters apparently, his membership of the Republicans.

This attempt on Trumps life is out and out a Democrat facilitated assassination attempt.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 15 July 2024 5:16:49 PM
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Donald Trump was playing golf the day after his attempted murder. The man is a one-off. He makes his adversaries look like the pathetic shites they are.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 15 July 2024 5:42:51 PM
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Evan Vucci’s photographs of a defiant Trump towering over Secret Service agents in front of the Stars and Stripes will inspire millions of Americans. It will inspire many more millions of non-Americans as they think of their own weasel politicians.

There is even talk of ‘divine intervention’. Saved by a couple of centimetres!
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 15 July 2024 6:02:53 PM
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"The shooter was also known to be associated with ANTIFA and some other radical left wing groups; but it only matters apparently, his membership of the Republicans."

He donated to ActBlue, Hillary Clintons Presidential campaign in 2016.
That in my book means he had Trump Derangement Syndrome, and hated the 'deplorables'.

Being a card carrying Republican probably helped him gain access to Trump events and maybe even guns as well without as much scrutiny, and considering the attempt would certainly cost him his life, why not leave behind the idea he was one of them?
- and maybe he'd already hidden the weapon somewhere beforehand?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 15 July 2024 7:04:45 PM
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Good to see the Trumpsters proclaiming their messiah, The Dangerous Doctor Donald, GOD THE DONALD! With his next miracle, God The Donald will leap from atop the Grand Canyon, and as he plungers to the raging river 1,000 foot below, a band of 'Triumphant Angles' will swoop down from the heavens, and upon their wings they shall carry the wondrous Donald God back to his heavenly kingdom......... Now! How can you top that one Gar Gar Joe!....Joe don't know what to do, said to his campaign team; "If I give out free 'Weenie Dogs'on Fridays do yah thinks da folks will da vote far me?"..."Shut up Joe, drink your coco, 'Weenie Dogs' wont cut it!"
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 15 July 2024 8:50:08 PM
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Just saw a clip in which two snipers had the would be assassin in their sights for three minutes but weren't given permission to shoot !
What does that tell us ?
Watching 4 corners just now would give anyone cold shivers down the spine as to the degree of connivery among the Left.
Trump has the useless & corrupt bureaudroids in a panic spin ! Good, decent Public Servants must surely be breathing sighs of relief !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 15 July 2024 9:24:39 PM
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A woman's voice at the end of 4 Corners said America is gone ! What she didn't say is that it was the Left that sent it away !
If Australians aren't careful it'll go that way here too. The ABC appears to push for that, the same ABC we all pay for !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 15 July 2024 9:28:13 PM
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Well I have been saying everything they try to do to hurt Trump only makes him stronger;
Kind of like everything they do in foreign policy to try to hurt Russia or China blows up in their faces.
I stated the other day that their official stated foreign policy is: SUICIDE

It's because we're lead by incompetent fanatics.
Which is a true statement completely regardless of Donald Trumps existence.
In fact, one might actually say that Donald Trumps existence works as a great throw-off.
They create a big fuss about him, to distract from themselves.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 15 July 2024 9:59:36 PM
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The fake charges against Trump for holding supposedly classified documents in Mar-a-Lago has been completely defeated. The presiding judge has announced that the case was a breach of the constitution and all charges have been dropped.

This follows the unravelling of the charges bought against Trump in Georgia and the utter shattering of that prosecutor's reputation.

And then there's the fraud case in NY where the sentencing has been delayed as the judge weighs whether the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity means that some of the evidence used was inadmissible. That case was always going to be overturned once the appeals got outside NY, but it could be over much earlier than that.

That just leaves the January 6 case and that was always going to be a failure, instituted for the theatre rather than the facts of the matter.

It could all change, but just now Trump seems like an unstoppable juggernaut.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 7:49:22 AM
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Following the shooting, Trump announced that he thought the nation should provide security to RFK Jr given that he was a legitimate candidate and the Kennedy's history of assassination. The Biden regime had been denying such security to RFK, seeing him as a political enemy.

Well, blow me down, a few hours after Trump called for the security to be given, the WhiteHouse announced that they would indeed provide RFK with a security detail.

Its almost like Trump is already running the government.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 8:29:29 AM
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Donald Trump's statement, “At the end of the day, they’re not coming after me. They’re coming after you, and I’m just standing in the way”, has been proven true. And, inspired by the hate-talkers inside and outside of the political machine, a lunatic tried to get Trump out of the way.

Donald Trump is truly the only man standing between the Free World and its enemies. All other Western politicians are pathetic compared with this man, who is now being compared with that down to earth ‘Roughrider’ (he was the leader of that fighting group), Teddy Roosevelt.

Roosevelt was also shot by evil people who feared him as much as Leftists fear Donald Trump today.

Roosevelt was also smeared as “a self-obsessed, egotistical megalomaniac”, and just about everything else the lunatics could make up. The same sort of haters we have today, that encouraged a lunatic to try to kill Trump. Thousands of people were responsible for both shootings. We have some such here on OLO.

Unlike Trump, Roosevelt had the opportunity to ask his assailant why he did it, but he never got an answer from the maniac.

Donald Trump, like Roosevelt, has been spared to show just how tough and strong the U.S can be again with the right leaders.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 10:11:47 AM
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Biden admits it was a "mistake" for him to say he wanted to put a bullseye on Donald Trump.

Then he rambled on: "How do you talk about the threat to democracy which is real, when a president says things like he says. Do you just not say anything because it might incite somebody?"
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 10:39:43 AM
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There's a difference between reacting or responding to
somebody's wild claims, and alarming negativity, and
making those wild claims and attempts to incite in the
first place. The antipathy, hatred, and bile towards
any perceived criticism and calls for toning things
down and for calm - should not be silenced.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 11:15:46 AM
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First the Left started calling Donald Trump names. He got more popular.
Then the Left impeached him, making him more popular again.
The same mob fabricated stories about ‘staging a coup'. Same result.
They weaponised the judicial system against him. More popularity and a huge increase in donations to his campaign.
And now - they have tried to kill him. And that seems to have really put him on a pedestal.

After police started hunting for a killer, Trump was still left on the podium!
Police were on a roof just 150 metres from the roof the shooter was!
The crowd spotted the shooter before police did!
The Left is still calling for violence against Trump!
The Left is still calling him a ‘fascist’ a ‘dictator’, ‘a Hitler’.
They are not even to pretending that they wouldn't have been happy to see Trump dead.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 1:32:26 PM
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The Left wanting Trump dead?

That piece of nonsense has been dis-spelled by documented
reactions world-wide. Normal, rational people don't
harbour those kind of thoughts. Extremists and fanatics do.
Thankfully fanatics and extremists - are a small minority
in this country.

Comparing Teddy Roosevelt to Donald Trump?

An informative article in the link given below tells us that:

"Sure there are some superficial similarities. Both were born
into moneyed New York families, both had wealthy demanding
fathers who profoundly shaped them and both took on the
political establishment of their era."

"But Roosevelt was a progressive who battled corporational
monopolies, disdained the idle rich and had a genuine compassion
for the poor."

"He championed many reforms - a living wage, a social safety
net that included Workmen's Compensation, pensions for the
elderly - adding to what he called a "square deal" for the
less fortunate. Trump's signature policy victory during his
only term in office was the passage of a tax cut that largely
benefited corporations and the wealthy."

We're told that both men shared an enormous ego.

"Roosevelt's daughter Alice once said - "He wanted to be the
corpse at every funeral. The bride at every wedding. And the
baby at every Christening."

"Trump's need for constant ego stroking is well documented and
Roosevelt's ego was just as big as his carving on Mount Rushmore."

"A healthy ego is not necessarily bad for a president. It
took enormous self-confidence for a relatively inexperienced
senator with a funny name to think he could become the nation's
first black president."

There's much more at:

http://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/04/politics/trump-teddy-roosevelt-parallels-blake-cec/index.html
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 1:58:05 PM
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Among the chat on the assassination attempt and Donald Trump's survival, hypocrisy has been mentioned.

The question is being asked: ‘Why are the people who “know” that Donald Trump is the Single Biggest Threat to Democracy (e.g Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi) so pleased that this awful Threat survived? They say they are, after they performed character assassination with “galactic hyperbole”.

U.S. blogger, Douglas Wilson, writes that if Donald Trump is the “threat to democracy” that these loopy people say he is, what would be wrong with a spot of assassination to ‘save democracy’. Everyone, including Dietrich Bonhoeffer, was OK with the idea of knocking off Adolf Hitler, whom they often compared Donald Trump with.

Perhaps they were just churning out inflammatory crap to stir up voters. Although, Trump's death would have been mighty handy to them. Now that he has survived, the Democrats are in even bigger trouble than they were before the failed attempt. Trump is a hero.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 3:36:45 PM
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Trump a hero?

No. he's a a man running for a second term as US President
whose campaign, indeed his entire political career has thrived
on anger, fear, and chaos. Telling the cult of personality
that has arisen around him that the problems that America has,
he alone can fix. Without chaos and fear - Trump is nothing
but an aging showman.

A hero? Hardly. He's a man who will play into
a galactic martyrdom complex. And it will be milked
for all its worth - you can count on it.

Let's wait and see if Trump will try to bring the country
together at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee this
week. Or will he continue in his usual way of arousing anger,
fear, and chaos - which he alone can fix?

Interesting times ahead.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 5:18:19 PM
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Donald Trump Calls For Unity After Assassination Attempt, Confirms He Will Speak At Republican Convention; Melania Trump Releases Statement
http://au.news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-calls-unity-assassination-142014811.html
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 11:36:00 PM
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Interesting times ahead.
Foxy,
Indeed, particularly for the public fund pilfering, society destroying Leftists !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 6:36:31 AM
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All those that said Donald was a Nazi, now say Donald's a great guy, and that's his mates on his side of politics. I just love this American political crap, a real comedy of clowns, one and all. You couldn't script a bigger joke than the bunch of loonies in American politics, from Crazy Donald to Gar Gar Joe. I love watching it, can't wait for the second act! A cameo roll for a tutti-frutti shooter, for the would-be assassin his appearance was indeed a short one, and then it was... exit stage left, DEAD! A word form our sponsor, Donald endorses Band Aids, great for a bleeding ear!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 8:10:54 AM
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Foxy, back in 2005 I posted here on OLO regarding “Less secure, less free: anti terrorism laws” and my ‘opinion’ regarding the LNP, Fuhrer Howard and the rise of neo-fascism. Today in WA we have the Firearms Act Amendments (2024) now in force. I would urge you and all other posters to peruse Section 150 (c) of this act which by its own appears to be reasonable. It is anything but that, moreover it is yet another example of the Labor/Green/ALP alliance that is Hell bent on destroying democracy in Australia. Irrespective of your thoughts, opinions and views on firearms, gun ownership and such, this act sets a very dangerous precedent by its own wording. It is in all respects the beginning of the “Thought Police” writ large. Forget about Trump and his right wing take on matters. We are, globally, heading rapidly towards a social, economic and political abyss. Deafening by their silence, not one law school, legal scholar, academic or politician of any flavour made mention of the significance of the words: “… thoughts, views or opinions..”
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 9:43:50 AM
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Hi Albie,

Thanks for referring me to the Act. I'm not familiar
with it and I shall look into it.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 10:21:30 AM
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Three quotes from Quadrant Online this morning:

“Trump is a force of nature, a unique political talent, and a showman who at the moment of maximum danger [on Saturday] was at his finest.”

“The media are a spectacularly incompetent and ineffectual arm of the Democratic Party that has done more to empower Trump’s rise and resurrection than any other institution in American life.”

“The Democrat-Media complex has chosen the method of its destruction, and it is becoming increasingly difficult to imagine anything other than a Trump restoration in November.”
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 10:26:44 AM
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The race for the White House is no longer a competition over
policy as it used to be but rather a cult of personality
that's driven some Americans to take their views to the
extreme.

Trump's former presidency was defined by division and chaos
and fuelled an under-current of hate and anger that still
exists and continues to manifest.

There were plenty in power who have helped conspiracy
theories along with dangerous rhetoric finding its way into
online discussions and chat forums and social media channels.

Toning down the rhetoric?

Unfortunately as we can see there is more of the same to come
from both sides of politics.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 10:44:56 AM
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My Immediate Observations of Trump Shooting:

Democrats will have to work overtime rigging this election?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 12:24:55 PM
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Trump will attempt to block the peaceful transfer of power
by manipulating vote counts and instigating another riot
on Capitol Hill if he loses.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 12:32:49 PM
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He'll also claim the election was rigged.

Perhaps this time his Vice President will support
his claims?
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 1:00:32 PM
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feels like we're living in a political soap opera sometimes.
Posted by scarletred, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 3:51:17 PM
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List of US presidents who have been assassinated, and those who have been wounded:

Killed:

Lincoln (1865)
Garfield (1881)
McKinley (1901)
Kennedy (1963)

Wounded:

Roosevelt (1912) (former president while campaigning)
Reagan (1981)
Trump (2024)

All Republicans except Kennedy, who was the next best thing to a Republican, personally if not party-wise.

In the meantime, the female head of the Secret Service is reported to be more interested in getting more females into the Service instead of doing her own job properly. Friend of Biden's, apparently.

We saw the female agent, supposed to be protecting Trump with her body, but actually not tall enough to reach his armpit.

As an ex- military man, now a congressman said, when you concentrate on DEI, you usually get DIE.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 4:21:04 PM
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Donald Trump is constantly compared with Adolf Hitler by Leftist nutjobs, including those in the media. Nobody can avoid seeing or hearing the Trump-equals-Hitler tripe.

Given the number of mental-defectives in the community, it was inevitable that at least one of them would be mad enough to believe that Donald Trump was bad enough to kill.

That's why all the loony Left and the loony Left media are just as culpable for the shooting as the deranged 20 year old weirdo was - the likes of Hillary Clinton among them; her tweets comparing Trump with Hitler are still available - as are the official Biden-Harris ones blurting similar abuse.

There have been plenty of well known Hollywood actors also breathing poison into the ears of deranged people like Thomas Matthew Crooks, as well as politicians and thousands of insane people on social media.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 4:47:35 PM
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Dan Bongino TEARS into Secret Service Over Trump Shooting
http://youtu.be/vR-NbQU55uc

He is former Secret Service and has some things to say about Kim Cheatle (Director of Secret Service) as well.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 17 July 2024 4:50:41 PM
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A comedian who says “don't miss Trump next time” then says he doesn't condone violence? Even though his sort - the Loony Left - says words are violence?

Ah. He says that has violence was just a “lack of judgement”. And he “truly regrets any pain he has caused”.

One thing that has come out of the attempted assassination is that the Left remains rotten to the core. They don't lack ‘judgement’; they lack humanity and decency.

Just as disgusting are those in the audience who laughed at what the creep said.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 18 July 2024 8:46:20 AM
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Donald Trump's senior campaign adviser sees nearly 20 paths to victory for Trump, compared with one, maybe two for President Biden.

The Republicans have been unified by the assassination attempt, while the Democrats are in chaos about Biden's mental state and suitability as a candidate.

The Republican campaign management is not interested in Biden: how wacky he is, and how old he is; they believe that they are more aligned with the American people on inflation, the cost of everything, and illegal aliens pouring over the southern border.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 18 July 2024 8:48:20 AM
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The US Secret Service has been “slammed”, and the Director has been subpoenaed to testify about the “security lapses" before the House Oversight Committee.

The fiasco has been described as “a total failure of the agency’s core mission”.

There are even accusations of ‘intent’ rather than incompetence.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 18 July 2024 12:37:13 PM
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With Biden as good as gone another draining of the swamp can start asap.
The Europeans are doing it now & hopefully it'll catch on here too !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 18 July 2024 9:17:06 PM
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.

Dear diver dan,

.

You wrote :

1. « This attempt on Trumps life is out and out a Democrat facilitated assassination attempt »
.

Sounds like a joint effort, diver dan – a Democrat-facilitated and Republican-executed assassination attempt.

Trump is reported to have declared to the New York Post : “I want to try to unite our country”.

Apparently, the rifle shot marked the beginning of that effort of unification. The problem is that when the Democrats and Republicans get together to do something like that, they irremediably tend to confuse elimination and unification.

As we all know, it’s extremely difficult to break old habits – on both sides of the aisle (eh, ... house).
.

2. « The shooter was also known to be associated with ANTIFA and some other radical left wing groups »

I think it would be more correct to say that he was “said” to be associated with ANTIFA, etc., … - not that he was “known” to be associated, etc., …

I have not found evidence of any such association. If you have evidence, diver dan, perhaps you would be kind enough to share it with us.

This is what the BBC has to say on that :

http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyr7pyd0687o

.

Dear ttbn,

.

You wrote :

« There is even talk of ‘divine intervention »
.

That’s correct, ttbn. The Republicans started that rumour. And in a fine demonstration of unity, the Democrats agreed – noting that God refused to take him into heaven – so He blew the bullet to the right-wing (eh, … ear).

Apparently, there's no such thing in heaven as divine unity.

There can only be one God in Heaven !

.
Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 19 July 2024 2:11:41 AM
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In Milwaukee, a teen asks his dad:

"Dad - what is the difference between our two major parties?"

The dad replies: " That's easy. One is the party of the
common man, the other is the party of the special interests."

The teen then asks:

"And which is which?"

The dad replies:

"Well, that's harder."
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 July 2024 10:11:51 AM
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ttbn said- "Evan Vucci’s photographs of a defiant Trump towering over Secret Service agents in front of the Stars and Stripes"

Answer- The death toll was much much larger at Iwo Jima but the Trump picture reminds me of the other famous flag raising.
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 19 July 2024 5:21:53 PM
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Heard some one say on the radio that "Trump divided the Nation". From what I've been shown by the media it's always his opponents who are stirring things up.
The fact that he wants to get the show running again upsets the Democrats who fear the gravy train schedule will change !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 19 July 2024 8:43:42 PM
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Banjo Paterson

We are awaiting confirmation on his radical left wing involvements, but unfortunately, he has been turned into an air-head by the CIA snipers.

However, one conspiracy theory I did subscribe to though, was leading up to 2016 elections; Barack Obama was an homosexual, Michelle Obama was a transvestite and his two children were adopted. The first prediction was true, Barack Obama IS an homosexual.
The Democrat scrum have shielded part two and three from public scrutiny well though.

But I have no need of the BBC to skew reality with Qatar oil money promoting terrorist causes, along with Al Jazeera, CNN, NYT and the BBC , not forgetting our own plyer of the terrorist trade the ABC.
Maybe a little lifting the corner of the ABC for evidence would be in order.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 19 July 2024 10:22:22 PM
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Whistle-blowers have revealed that the officials involved with Trump's “rescue” were not experienced Secret Service agents, but were from Homeland Security, unfamiliar with standard protocols.

The whole thing was “loose”, without the ‘usual’ detector dogs. There was not proper security buffer, and the result represents a total failure of the agency’s core mission.

It is clear that there was more than Democrat hate rhetoric at work against Donald Trump.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 20 July 2024 9:17:22 AM
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Also revealed: the attempted assassin, Crooks, tracked Donald Trump's movements for months.

The overlooking roof Crooks fired from was a “massive overlook”. It just doesn't happen normally.

There had been no digital scan of the area, usual practice before such an event.

Shooter Crooks had 3 encrypted accounts overseas, yet to be investigated. A 20 year old with secret accounts overseas?

The distinct possibility of international intrigue is on the cards. Iran has already been mentioned. Hard to believe that would use a 20 year old kid, though.

Perhaps this was just a trial run. Iran has every reason to fear a Trump Presidency, as do so many other bad actors.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 20 July 2024 9:47:39 AM
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So many conspiracy theories being whipped up.

It sells newspapers.

Trump tells voters the whole American political system
is corrupt (sound familiar?) and he gets away with
name-calling that would back-fire on other candidates.

During his rallies - Trump imitates Biden as a feeble
old man who can't find the stairs after giving a brief
speech and he calls the President "crooked" and a
"demented tyrant," while talking about Hannibal Lecter?

Americans can't tell jokes about Donald Trump anymore.

Republicans don't think those are funny.

And Democrats don't think those are jokes.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 July 2024 10:46:26 AM
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Now it comes out that the SS Diretor Kim Cheadle landed the job after being pushed by the office of Jill Biden.

Good old DEI at work. Forget meritocracy.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 20 July 2024 11:55:20 AM
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Yeah I heard that too ttbn,

There's a lot of questions
It's no wonder people are engaging in 'conspiracy theories'
Why was Trump allowed on stage if there was an active threat with a firearm?
He was sighted by numerous people in the crowd some 20 mins prior.

And the Director of the Secret Service appointed by the Bidens?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 20 July 2024 12:28:04 PM
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I would have thought that the Secret Service would have had drones
flying around looking at all the rooftops for someone lying there with a rifle.
Duh, perhaps they are not so clued up as we all think.
Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 20 July 2024 1:50:50 PM
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Donald Trump was asked :

"How much is

ten times ten?"

He replied:

" Ten times ten? I know numbers. Nobody is better at numbers
than I am. I hear people saying all kinds of things. The answer
could be fifeteen. It could be thousands. We don't know.
I'll bet that the answers are hidden somewhere by the Secret
Service, that's what I think folks are saying. I think folks
are saying that you can't trust the Secret Service. Ten times
ten doesn't equal anything anymore because the system is so
corrupt. It's sad folks, It's really sad."

It sure is.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 July 2024 2:49:03 PM
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Americas a rotten nation anyway
http://youtu.be/oh08ZEwEYqc?t=1874
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 21 July 2024 12:31:41 AM
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Hi AC,

Scott Ritter is spot on, America cannot exist without war, its economy is totally dependent on the Military Industrial Complex. Its not the Worlds peace keeper at all, just the opposite, its the Worlds warmonger. In the Australian context both sides of mainstream politics, like in America are predicated on war.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 21 July 2024 6:25:54 AM
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Something that might have gone unnoticed is the tossing out by a judge of the ‘classified documents’ lark against Donald Trump.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 21 July 2024 8:38:45 AM
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Lunch Lady protects Donald Trump

https://youtu.be/oOhzMElFDws?si=jYJ2yON04vFRSX8L
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 21 July 2024 8:53:05 AM
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#The distinct possibility of international intrigue is on the cards. Iran has already been mentioned. Hard to believe that would use a 20 year old kid, though#

Not at all: Observe the Iranian manipulation of pathetically inept Democrat Administration fuelled by a mentally deficient President.
I think the evidence points more to the fact that Iran is having very easy time manipulating the US policy in the ME reaching way back to Obama. The ME is a total calamity because of it.

Also, the evidence for financial and logistical support towards University protests stemming from mind control for money which is not only but also, antisemitic and anti-western to the core, are directly funded by Qatars long association with liberal interests of Democrats.

Democrats support ME terrorism , it’s an elitist cause. The Palestinian Two State solution is a thinly disguised Islamic ruse for strategic advantage over Israel.

The major threat to Islamic ventures through Iranian control is Trump.
The whole assassination attempt on Trump will lead directly back to the Middle East and Iran;, and will also as a consequence, implicate the Democrats abysmal failure with its appeasement policies, only interrupted by Donald Trumps brief Presidency.
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 21 July 2024 1:51:38 PM
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One thing you have to give the far right brigade they're never short on conspiracy theories. Here we have one from a couple of regulars on the subject, experts on everything; "The distinct possibility of international intrigue is on the cards. Iran has already been mentioned. Hard to believe that would use a 20 year old kid, though".

Not at all says the other: "Observe the Iranian manipulation of pathetically inept Democrat Administration fuelled by a mentally deficient President."
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 21 July 2024 5:53:59 PM
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Its exit stage left for Gah Gah Joe! And, the comedy continues! Who writes this stuff?
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 5:27:49 AM
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#Who writes this stuff?# = Your leftist lot!

As in France which is now a Communist State with your leftist mates sidling with the Islamists openly calling fir the slaughter of Jews everywhere and has resulted in a call for all Hews to leave France urgently and if that’s not enough then in Canada the same warnings are being heard now for Jews to consider the same move.

It’s you pathetic cowards who are blind to the fact that Islamic Terrorism has been wagging the tail of the Greens and other left leaning fools such as and also in particular the Democrats under the leadership of Biden which obviously and only recently you’ve decided to scamper away from for now since to sleep with monkeys is a guaranteed recipe for hosting frees.

But I’m sure as a simple prediction you will move along the trail you now wish you had not entered supporting further terrorist causes being the weeping and wailing fir Palestinians who are deserving of no tears and no mercy.

Let me know if you’re not happy with the above truthfulness which I would hope the shock of gazing into the pool of reality at last might see you considering the greater value of support for a Trump world.and I snigger loudly at the chances of that event transpiring.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 8:46:14 AM
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diver dan,

the Zionists-Nazi's just attacked a "so called" humanitarian zone in Gaze, killing 70 innocent civilians, mostly women and children injuring 100's of others. The rap is simple, tell Palestinians to gather in these so called humanitarian zones, where they will be "safe". then give them 5 minutes notice to clear out before a Zionist-Nazi attack. A neat variation on the old German Nazi ploy of telling Jews they were being shipped off to a new homeland in the East, only to stick them in gas chambers.

DD, I bet a clever dick like you couldn't think up something like that, But I’m sure as a simple prediction you will move along the trail you now wish you had not entered supporting further terrorist causes of the Zionist-Nazi's.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 1:01:04 PM
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Paul, it is all gut grinding to see what is happening in Gaza.
But what is Israel to do, Hamas said they will do 7th October again,
and again and again. History shows they mean it.
If they had a gun at your family, would you worry about theirs ?

It all started with Mohammad when he was a desert brigand and the
Jewish villages resisted.
Then he built hatred of Jews into Islam.
Posted by Bezza, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 1:14:29 PM
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Bezza,

What I wouldn't do, I wouldn't go and murder 40,000 innocent men, women and children. Its abundantly clear that Hamas no longer has the capability to stage another Oct 7th attack. Do you view the murder of innocent women and children as some kind of means of preventing another attack on that scale?

You tout yourself as an expert on Islam, I doubt you are, just another from the far right who now supports the once hated Zionists, on the bases of "My enemies enemy is my friend".

BTW, my son has an English version of the Quran, may you give me a reference to the section that says; "Mohammad when he was a desert brigand and the Jewish villages resisted. Then he built hatred of Jews into Islam."

I'm in no way a supporter of Islam, or any Abrahamic religion for that matter, they all seem to have lots of short comings in their beliefs and practices, but there is some good in them as well.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 23 July 2024 1:44:34 PM
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Bezza,

Has the cat got your tongue? Asking the guru of the Quran, that's your claim to fame, for a reference must have been too much, I'll try again.

Bezza, may you give me a reference to the section that says; "Mohammad when he was a desert brigand and the Jewish villages resisted. Then he built hatred of Jews into Islam."
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 27 July 2024 5:40:39 AM
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Hi Diver Dan,
"The whole assassination attempt on Trump will lead directly back to the Middle East and Iran"
- Ah I knew it, Kimberly Cheatle, Director of the Secret Service failed to secure the 150 yard perimeter because she was working for the Iranians.

Look, if Trump wants to assassinate foreign dignitaries on peace missions, then people in that country might put a bullseye on his head.
- That's what you get when you listen to neoconservative madmen like John Bolton and Mike Pompeo.
America is no longer the ruling state in the world.
- But it still thinks it is, to it's own detriment.
Really they are just hastening their own demise.

Trumps not going to fix anything, he's only got one term.
Democrats will hamstring anything he does, in the democracy downward spiral.
And Trumps not smart enough to pay attention to the finer details of foreign policy.
But any change right now is probably a good thing.
Biden certainly wasn't helping the Palestinians so Trump can hardly do any worse there anyway.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:21:13 AM
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Hi Bezza,
"Then he built hatred of Jews into Islam."
The Pro-Jewish side always has to point the finger of blame at others
- But never at themselves.

It's getting pretty old.
Goes down like Singer's weekly whinge.

'Look what they just did!'
(False flag bombed their own people and blamed Hezbollah)

'But don't ever look at what we're doing, we're working tirelessly to assassinate the journalists so you don't hear about OUR crimes committed on an ongoing daily basis - or else you must be an antisemite!'

Hi diver dan,
"As in France which is now a Communist State with your leftist mates sidling with the Islamists openly calling fir the slaughter of Jews everywhere and has resulted in a call for all Hews to leave France urgently and if that’s not enough then in Canada the same warnings are being heard now for Jews to consider the same move."

And you are surprised about this?
What did you think there wouldn't be any blowback when Israel is genociding Muslims en masse?
Why are they running around passing AntiSemitic laws?

Anthony Albanese announces antisemitism envoy, says Jewish people 'do not feel safe'
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/anthony-albanese-announces-anti-semitism-envoy-says-jewish-people-do-not-feel-safe/fzso7fhdx

May the fearful Jews should call the Israeli PM and tell him to stop bombing Palestinian women and kids instead of blaming people who dare to oppose mass killings of innocents.
They can always head back to Israel, no?
Don't they have dual passports?

Even Erdogan said he might invade yesterday.

Turkey’s Erdogan appears to issue open threat to invade Israel over war in Gaza
https://www.timesofisrael.com/turkeys-erdogan-appears-to-issue-open-threat-to-invade-israel-over-war-in-gaza/

Hi Paul,
"Hamas no longer has the capability to stage another Oct 7th attack."
- I wouldn't be so sure about that. 'Israels Hamas recruitment drive'
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:44:30 AM
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Somehow or other we're supposed to believe the whole Arab Spring was over a Charlie Hebdo cartoon, but the Muslims are totally ok with Jews genociding them for the better part of a whole year.

Part of me wants to see Israel pick on someone their own size.
Someone who can flatten their cities in response like they do others.

Of course I don't want innocents to be killed, but Israel probably has some karma coming, if it's not already receiving some of it.

They reap what they have sowed.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 12:51:56 AM
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Britain is ‘broke and broken’, new government declares
http://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/news/britain-is-broke-and-broken-new-government-declares/

'We foolishly worked side by side with the Americans to expand NATO and the EU and start a war against Russia which has cost hundreds of billions of Euro and blown up in our faces spectacularly.

We thought we could oust Putin and subvert Russia to become a Western vassal state, because our biggest Western rival is China, and they are doing better than us.

Now we have cut off the source of Europe's wealth which as Russian gas, and we face economic ruin, which we were already on the path to, due to poor financial management.

None of us will admit the truth, because admitting such a mistake would see us all thrown from office, so we continue the lie.'
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 9:20:55 AM
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Hi AC,

After a glorious victory over Hamas, Israel is itching for an all out war with a much bigger fish, Hezbollah in Lebanon.

No worries Dud Dutton is on his way to Israel to offer his full support to Bibi. He'll tell the Fuhrer; "Don't worry Bibi, when we attack the Lebs, I'll be leading the charge!..... Bibi; "A great sacrifice my friend, we expect 100% casualties in the first wave!".....Dud; "Well, ah, um you do, think I have to stay home and babysit the budgie that day SORRY Bibi, can't make it!"
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 30 July 2024 4:38:41 PM
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Lt Col. Tony Shaffer: #Trump Assassination Update + How Shrewd Is Putin?
http://www.youtube.com/live/1AQkbmmLLkE

There's some really good 'food for thought' info regarding the Trump attempted assassination here.
- And I'm fairly open minded to his way of thinking, I think there might be some merit in his thoughts on the matter.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 2 August 2024 11:19:00 AM
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Secret Service chief cut threat-assessment teams before Trump shooting: GOP senator
http://nypost.com/2024/08/02/us-news/donald-rowe-cut-secret-service-threat-assessment-teams-before-trump-shooting-hawley/
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 5 August 2024 7:27:56 PM
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Funniest thing I saw today...
http://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1820673675831476367
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 9:55:55 AM
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