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Does Nuclear Power have A Future In Australia?

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ttbn,

Agree. Nuclear power is the Voice 2.0. I'm waiting for an announcement on long term supply contracts which will allow financing of some gas generators to give some stability over the next decade or two.

Cult leader Albo can add presiding over the destruction of cheap and reliable power in an energy rich nation to his pie of failures. The rush to using Simpsons memes in an evidence free scare campaign shows how far Labor has fallen since the days of Hawke and Keating.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 22 June 2024 11:37:27 AM
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The Coalition's energy scheme leaves many questions
unanswered:

1) They haven't provided any details about how much it
will cost.

Some energy market analysts have predicted the cost to
taxpayers could be as high as $100 billion.

2) How will the safety of communities living and working
near the facilities be protected?

3) Where and how will nuclear waste be stored?

4) How will the Federal Government over turn State
Government bans on nuclear activity?

5) Experts say that this energy scheme would lead to a lot
more climate pollution.

None of this makes an sense.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 June 2024 11:46:56 AM
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Foxy, I have done a little spreadsheet and came up with $14.27 per
KW/Hr. Seems too high to me considering I presumed 100% load 100% of
the day. The French must do a lot better than that.
The secret must be in financing methods.
What did you mean about filling in mine voids ?
I presume you mean the open space from where the coal was extracted.
That is going to be a cost anyway, no matter what it is replaced with.
Perhaps past experience has the answer, just let it cave in ?
You comment on the Transmission line deteriorating.
I do not understand, they are in use not matter what happens.
Generators are just connected to the lines that pass by the site.
That is why S/W transmission is so expensive lines have to be run to
wherever the w/s farms happen to be. Hence the farmer revolt.

The ash heaps from the coal station is a problem as they are
radio active and will confuse readings taken when a nuclear station
is later built on the site.
I can imagine Bowen saying "see it is radiating !"
Is that what you meant on decontaminating the site ?

Forget wind Foxy, we will never be able to afford the batteries needed
which it now turns out is very great because of the low winds during
winter just when the load is greatest.
Note we would also have to duplicate all the solar & wind generation
many time over dedicated to recharge those batteries over night.
I cannot find on the BOM anything about an Australian wind drought.

You ask can we ignore expert opinion, well lets ask the opinion of
those who have done it !

The whole problem can be solved just by calling for tenders for one station.
Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 22 June 2024 12:22:56 PM
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Foxy,

All of your points also apply to wind and solar. The only difference is that the wind and solar miracle is being implemented currently. So how is it that you are concerned by the lack of costings of last week's press release by the opposition, yet you seem to have no concern with the lack of costings for the wind and solar rollout that has been underway for many years?
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 22 June 2024 12:27:02 PM
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Fester,

CSIRO and the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO)
alongside stakeholders are consulted on revising
electricity generation and storage as well as hydrogen
production costs.

In a new report they highlight that:

"Renewables, led by wind and solar have retained their
position as Australia's cheapest new build electricity
generation. This result comes despite a 20% rise in
technology costs."

I accept the information that is provided by the specialists
and experts on important issues.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 June 2024 12:47:04 PM
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Foxy,

"1) They haven't provided any details about how much it
will cost."

Exactly. But my guess is that there will be costings for the nuclear reactors whereas we will be kept in the dark about the cost of running the grid on wind and solar. No problem for you though as you are being given the mushroom treatment by experts.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 22 June 2024 2:06:15 PM
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